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I'm glad... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM
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She used Compulsion so often like a hammer that one might forget that she could wield the weaker forms of it with great delicacy, twisting a mind’s path so subtly that even the closest examination might miss every trace of her.

That you brought this quote up. It just goes to show that Graendal could wield both the hammer and the scalpel as she wanted. One then wonders why she would lay the (obvious) Compulsion Smack Down on someone who is highly likely to be delved.

And just so everyone can read it again...I think that Graendal is dead for the simple reason that the end of the series is 2 books away. If this was earlier, I wouldn't trust this off screen death farther than I could pick up and toss Bela.

~Jeordam

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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 1801 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 717 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 656 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 681 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 716 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 663 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 584 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 671 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 627 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 531 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 580 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 596 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 553 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 561 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 589 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 588 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 519 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 641 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 270 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 555 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 536 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 559 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 736 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 646 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 610 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 553 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 532 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 632 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 513 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 626 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 619 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 628 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 586 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 627 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 581 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 295 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 559 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 569 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 564 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 628 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 554 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 607 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 602 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 278 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 634 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 514 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 801 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 528 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 264 Views
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