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Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM
She would never have shown him her real hideout. The "palace" clearly isn't Natrin's Barrow, but that does NOT indicate that she wasn't at Natrin's Barrow in any way. The other palace was just a ruse to fool Sammael (and perhaps Ituralde as well).

Plus your point about Compulsion actually verifies Graendal's presence - who else could weave such complex Compulsion on Ramshalan? It may not have been subtle but it was clearly complex enough to shock Nynaeve.

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Additional clues that something doesn't quite add up in Graendal's death darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 03:34:43 PM 1862 Views
I brought all this up before.. fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 04:52:39 PM 782 Views
Glad it's been brought up before darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 04:57:11 PM 711 Views
Assuming it's not her hideout . . . Palatine - 13/02/2010 05:47:22 PM 744 Views
I don't see problems Skeeve the Great - 13/02/2010 06:03:41 PM 775 Views
Also, Rand had to do some heavy research with the head librarian beetnemesis - 13/02/2010 07:15:27 PM 730 Views
no, Rand just sent a few scouts darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:56:33 PM 640 Views
"Well known" and "largely forgotten" are about as opposite as you can get! darius_sedai - 13/02/2010 11:44:39 PM 736 Views
I don't think so. Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 04:28:04 PM 697 Views
so now she's been there for the last 50 years? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:41:43 PM 595 Views
Re: so now she's been there for the last 50 years? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 06:29:32 PM 641 Views
you mean the scouts he sent? darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:52:59 PM 646 Views
He used scouts to find the place? Skeeve the Great - 14/02/2010 07:07:16 PM 619 Views
probably, but that doesn't make a difference. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 08:33:35 PM 628 Views
Re: probably, but that doesn't make a difference. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 08:10:47 AM 658 Views
I agree - those are basically antonyms RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 06:35:31 PM 653 Views
Like rotary phones, Milli Vanilli and the Macarena? JasonD - 23/02/2010 12:22:47 AM 581 Views
More... Kieran - 13/02/2010 07:37:45 PM 694 Views
Or it could be due to two different authors writing the story and nothing else. *NM* everynametaken - 14/02/2010 12:22:27 AM 289 Views
seems like pretty big differences darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 12:26:42 AM 617 Views
Not really. everynametaken - 15/02/2010 03:29:39 AM 601 Views
it's Maria's job to find these things darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:43:33 AM 618 Views
Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 03:45:23 AM 802 Views
Re: Seems absolutely obvious to me - she was tricking Sammael. darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:08:38 PM 713 Views
Fine, then what if she changed location after Sammael was compromised? Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:46:52 PM 677 Views
Any number of things are possible darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:45:35 PM 622 Views
You don't get it. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:10:33 PM 601 Views
Go re-read it... I said there are discrepancies between what Sammael said and what Rand said darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:54:43 PM 703 Views
There aren't, really. DomA - 14/02/2010 09:56:53 PM 573 Views
so you think a kid who has likely never even seen a map knows the name of a castle darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 10:09:55 PM 695 Views
Two possibilities how Kerb knew the name Voscaia Sedai - 15/02/2010 09:04:14 AM 688 Views
There are infinite possibilities darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 12:48:23 PM 692 Views
Re: There are infinite possibilities Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 05:51:24 PM 650 Views
*sigh back* darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 06:08:28 PM 668 Views
Kerb wasn't planted by anyone. Fanatic-Templar - 15/02/2010 06:41:18 PM 639 Views
She's dead, people need to move on. *NM* Libby - 14/02/2010 07:34:31 AM 316 Views
I acknowledge that it's possible (even likely) that she is dead darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 01:09:53 PM 627 Views
Graendal is Toast with a capital T. Not possibly dead, not likely dead, 100% gone. Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 04:48:09 PM 632 Views
This from you? HA! darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 05:44:16 PM 632 Views
Look, Lord Haart - 14/02/2010 06:02:32 PM 690 Views
seriously I think you are mistaking me for another poster darius_sedai - 14/02/2010 06:58:47 PM 615 Views
The discrepancies are due to the series being over 12 books long... Libby - 15/02/2010 08:59:24 PM 677 Views
I'm glad... Jeordam - 15/02/2010 10:07:06 PM 659 Views
I'm with you on her probably being dead only because it's so close to the end *NM* darius_sedai - 16/02/2010 01:30:42 AM 305 Views
Why was Kerb highly likely to be delved? Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 06:42:37 AM 708 Views
I think that I have my names mixed up.... Jeordam - 16/02/2010 04:17:46 PM 580 Views
Re: I think that I have my names mixed up.... Lord Haart - 16/02/2010 05:43:51 PM 862 Views
The quote is in my original post! darius_sedai - 23/02/2010 12:30:14 PM 591 Views
Yes; but those pieces of evidence basically separate the 2 schools of thought on her "death scene" *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/02/2010 03:59:41 PM 289 Views
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