Re: Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien
Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 13/02/2010 10:45:06 AM
The White Tower provides structure and law to female channellers, and ensures they are afforded respect.
Part of the problem. The world needs to fall into line behind a male channeler now, and that respect that female channelers have come to assume is their due has interfered with their cooperation with Rand. Here's something to think about - without the Tower coming back together, or if it collapsed into a disastrous round of bloody internecine war, there would be a leadership vaccuum for that neutral 1/3 of the Tower, with Rand in the best position to fill it, through the powerful or respected Aes Sedai already aligned with him.And what would Rand assume leadership of in that case? 1/3 of AS, without their millennia-old home (which BTW ties the Kin to them as well)? I think that regardless of how you approach this, 1000 channelers (plus thousands of novices/accepted, many of whom will be Raised shortly) is far better than maybe 250, many of whom might be BA, unbeknownst to Rand.
I just don't see why the Tower issue has to be elevated to some crucial piece, rather than a sidebar like the others. It is treated like the number two story, second only to Rand's mission.
Actually, I think that equal importance is given to Mat's story (how many chapters went towards simply courting Tuon?), Elayne's story (RJ could easily just have made her ascension easier, and dropped the irrelevant subplot about Adeleas's murderer), and of course Perrin's story (save Faile, save the world? Really?).
The simple explanation is that RJ didn't intend for this series to be about "how Rand defeated the evil lord of vile darkness", but rather to map a series of characters as they progress through a time of strife and change. By contrast with Perrin and Elayne, Egwene has done far more for Rand if she can deliver the tower to him (or even if it just fights the Shadow on its own). Even Mat might turn out to be less relevant, as we still haven't seen him impact Tuon in any way, nor has he saved Moiraine yet.
"Oh," I hear you say, "he's going to do that in the next book, silly!". Yes, no doubt. But Egwene could equally make large steps in the next books as well.
If you're a fan of chess, then you'll appreciate the link I posted. Sometimes we think the author is wasting time or pages instead of cutting to the meat of the plot. Only once the series ends can we claim that it was truly wasted space.
So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM
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The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER
07/02/2010 06:46:51 AM
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Re: The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER
08/02/2010 05:43:52 PM
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I think the breaking of the tower was....
07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM
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Yes, but that isn't the point.
08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM
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Re: Yes, but that isn't the point.
08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM
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YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM
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Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM
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Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal?
10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM
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Re: the wise ones.
13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM
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Re: The point was that Rand needed the division.
07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM
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small disagreement
07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM
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Re: small disagreement
08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM
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Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices
15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
08/02/2010 04:34:52 AM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
08/02/2010 06:56:01 AM
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Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien
11/02/2010 11:53:41 PM
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Re: Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien
13/02/2010 10:45:06 AM
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Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle?
07/02/2010 10:42:27 PM
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These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
08/02/2010 04:50:11 AM
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Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM
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Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that.
13/02/2010 09:33:04 AM
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For that matter, what is the point of Andor?
08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM
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Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor?
08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM
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But Tar Valon is critical too.
08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM
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Really?
10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM
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So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower.
10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM
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Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower.
12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM
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Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower.
15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM
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To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin.
17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM
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