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my thoughts Yunalesca Send a noteboard - 09/02/2010 12:58:30 PM
we know at this point in the books that most of Randland is in chaos, mostly at the hands of the forsaken, their dogsbodies, Fain and total fools. As we know chaos is the element of the dark one and the more he sows, the stronger he gets.

Breaking the tower back in book 4 BEFORE the 'let the lord of chaos rule' order was IMO, a masterstroke. the Tower has been the symbol of the light for millenia and sometimes symbols are more important than the actual thing they represent. we can certainly see what happens to the world after the split. the endless summer, masema going insaner ect.

im currently re-reading TSR and what struck me as intresting was the fact that in this book the tower split, LTT's essence appeared and Rand starting down the slippery slope of madness. Rand first speaks as LTT when telling Lanfear to eff off. 8 books later and the tower is healed around the time Rand finds some inner peace. "the land is one with the Dragon" indeed

so IMO the tower struggle is mainly symbolic of the Dragon Reborn's struggle to keep order whole before TG. he needs the world behind him otherwise he'll lose. with the tower whole he gets 1000 or so channlers, Garath Bryne and his army, the tower guard and the people in the city proper and the outlying villages.

think of it this way:
Loial gets Rand the Ogier
Lan gets Rand the Malkiri
Egghead gets him TG and the tower Aes Sedai and the Younglings
Elayne gets him Andor, Cairhien, the Kin and her armies
Mat gets him cannons, the Band of the Red Hand, possibly the seanchan and by extention half the westlands and moiraine
Perrin gets him the wolves, Gheldihan, Mayene,the mock Aiel, the Two Rivers and probably Galad and the whitecloaks
he already has the Sea folk, Illian, Tear, Arad Doman, Asha'man and most of the Aiel.

course Rand could have united the westlands so much easier but where would the story be?
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So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM 1800 Views
I think the breaking of the tower was.... - 07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM 764 Views
Nice idea, that does seem to make sense in hindsight. - 07/02/2010 06:18:35 PM 559 Views
Yes, but that isn't the point. - 08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM 649 Views
Re: Yes, but that isn't the point. - 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM 620 Views
YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM 549 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM 655 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM 617 Views
Re: the wise ones. - 13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM 461 Views
They're not the biggest clan... - 13/02/2010 02:20:38 PM 562 Views
Thank you - 15/02/2010 01:24:05 PM 666 Views
No problem. *NM* - 15/02/2010 09:05:11 PM 231 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM 658 Views
Re: The point was that Rand needed the division. - 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM 609 Views
small disagreement - 07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM 549 Views
Re: small disagreement - 08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM 488 Views
Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices - 15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM 557 Views
For that matter, what is the point of Andor? - 08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM 610 Views
Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor? - 08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM 555 Views
Especially true if - 08/02/2010 07:16:04 PM 526 Views
But Tar Valon is critical too. - 08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM 570 Views
Really? - 10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM 489 Views
Three women in a boat... - 10/02/2010 09:12:41 PM 532 Views
Nothing is ever given as a location for that boat that I recall. - 11/02/2010 11:54:39 PM 477 Views
So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM 611 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM 633 Views
In this, I agree with Fionwe. - 13/02/2010 10:31:07 AM 502 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM 641 Views
Some good points, but I still disagree. - 15/02/2010 06:30:50 PM 531 Views
- 15/02/2010 10:08:48 PM 620 Views
my thoughts - 09/02/2010 12:58:30 PM 720 Views
Belief and order give strength. - 10/02/2010 11:20:01 PM 552 Views
To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin. - 17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM 507 Views
I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". - 17/02/2010 06:07:25 PM 476 Views
Re: I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". - 22/02/2010 11:05:44 PM 537 Views
To unite the Tower under competent leadership, of course. - 23/02/2010 04:55:02 AM 979 Views
Does a main plotline HAVE to help defeat the DO? - 26/02/2010 04:11:30 PM 661 Views

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