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Re: Yes, but that isn't the point. brett014 Send a noteboard - 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM


This was the obvious reason for the split. My point for this post is, why was it so necessary to knit this organization back together under "good" leadership? This is not really any more important than many of the other sideline plots, and probably less important than most. The Tower struggle is only important for those personally involved, like the deaths of Perrin's family. Sure it matters a lot to the people concerned, but it is not very significant in the big picture.



I don't agree with that at all. Are you saying that a Tower divided has just as much meaning as the Tower whole? That is not even close to reality. The Tower whole is a force to be reckoned with by anyone, including Rand and the Black Tower. The Tower split was critical to the story because it prodded Rand in the direction the pattern needed him to go. Without the split atleast 1/2 of the important points in the whole series would have never happened (cleansing, Elayne in Andor, Perrin becoming a leader, the Seanchen would have never gained such a large foothold, the black tower would not exist, male channelers would not be around, healing of stilling, to just name a few). The tower struggle is one of the keys to the entire series, without it most things lose importance.
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So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Cannoli - 07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM 1854 Views
The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER beetnemesis - 07/02/2010 06:46:51 AM 723 Views
Re: The Tower will likely have some sort of "badass army" moment at the end... or, they'd BETTER lyringlas - 08/02/2010 05:43:52 PM 593 Views
I think the breaking of the tower was.... brett014 - 07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM 802 Views
Nice idea, that does seem to make sense in hindsight. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:18:35 PM 595 Views
Yes, but that isn't the point. Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM 681 Views
Re: Yes, but that isn't the point. brett014 - 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM 665 Views
YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM 588 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? brett014 - 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM 689 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? Cannoli - 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM 656 Views
Re: the wise ones. Lord Haart - 13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM 499 Views
They're not the biggest clan... fionwe1987 - 13/02/2010 02:20:38 PM 625 Views
Thank you Cannoli - 15/02/2010 01:24:05 PM 699 Views
No problem. *NM* fionwe1987 - 15/02/2010 09:05:11 PM 247 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM 701 Views
Re: The point was that Rand needed the division. Watcher - 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM 649 Views
small disagreement darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM 591 Views
Re: small disagreement Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM 526 Views
Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices darius_sedai - 15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM 594 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:34:52 AM 736 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? Lord Haart - 08/02/2010 06:56:01 AM 602 Views
Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien Cannoli - 11/02/2010 11:53:41 PM 653 Views
Re: Such a resolution could have been a minor plot point like settling Tear or Cairhien Lord Haart - 13/02/2010 10:45:06 AM 666 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? fairfax - 07/02/2010 10:42:27 PM 556 Views
These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. Cannoli - 08/02/2010 04:50:11 AM 736 Views
Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. fairfax - 08/02/2010 05:47:36 AM 607 Views
Re: These are reasons why the SPLIT is necessary. I was not questioning that. orius - 13/02/2010 09:33:04 AM 483 Views
For that matter, what is the point of Andor? fionwe1987 - 08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM 648 Views
Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor? brett014 - 08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM 597 Views
Especially true if Lord Haart - 08/02/2010 07:16:04 PM 559 Views
But Tar Valon is critical too. fionwe1987 - 08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM 611 Views
Really? Rurouni_Kenshin - 10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM 525 Views
Three women in a boat... fionwe1987 - 10/02/2010 09:12:41 PM 573 Views
Nothing is ever given as a location for that boat that I recall. Cannoli - 11/02/2010 11:54:39 PM 515 Views
So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. Cannoli - 10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM 649 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. fionwe1987 - 12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM 693 Views
In this, I agree with Fionwe. Lord Haart - 13/02/2010 10:31:07 AM 536 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. Cannoli - 15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM 679 Views
Some good points, but I still disagree. Lord Haart - 15/02/2010 06:30:50 PM 583 Views
fionwe1987 - 15/02/2010 10:08:48 PM 655 Views
my thoughts Yunalesca - 09/02/2010 12:58:30 PM 758 Views
Belief and order give strength. Gher - 10/02/2010 11:20:01 PM 590 Views
To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM 550 Views
I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". Lord Haart - 17/02/2010 06:07:25 PM 516 Views
Re: I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2010 11:05:44 PM 579 Views
To unite the Tower under competent leadership, of course. JasonD - 23/02/2010 04:55:02 AM 1031 Views
Does a main plotline HAVE to help defeat the DO? car'a'aman - 26/02/2010 04:11:30 PM 699 Views
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