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It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM
The reason being is that Lan has hit his top potential. He's been as good as he has for better than 25 years. Gawyn, on the other hand, is still getting better. You will notice that Gawyn was able to defeat Hamar, and I don't even think that he was injured. Lan was able to beat Riatan, but he lost his sword in the process and was wounded as well.

The fact that Gawyn is a whiney little child with delusions of thinking he's knowledgeable just absolutely slays me. He insists on believing that his mother was killed by Rand...a rumor that his own love disputes and says isn't true. And then he insists on killing Rand even though doing so would pretty much guarentee the end of creation and the Dark One taking over the entire realm of existance.

Dude needs to learn some priorities.

A good question though would be could Galad still beat Gawyn?

~Jeordam
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) Yondaime - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2743 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1508 Views
There there Yondaime - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1418 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1285 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1356 Views
I agree he was much better than before darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1236 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Jeordam - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1421 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Gerbeaud - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1344 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating Yondaime - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1361 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1271 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1280 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1377 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1238 Views
Again, what? When? Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1246 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1213 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 888 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat imlad - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1499 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1192 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better BlackAdder - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1275 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) MissKoalaVB - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1413 Views
Yondaime - 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1133 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1399 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1361 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1305 Views
Re: I agree. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1535 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1404 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1343 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1281 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1332 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass Datakim - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1886 Views
Totally agree. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1307 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1312 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1220 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1318 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1122 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 1011 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1244 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1319 Views
Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM 1194 Views
Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM 1308 Views
Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM 1172 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 787 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* Sidious - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 837 Views
of course it does darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1291 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1188 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1286 Views
That's nonsensical. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1289 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1198 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1205 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1200 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1216 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1185 Views
Right... Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1131 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1299 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways Datakim - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1134 Views
Can you provide that quote? darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1262 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1270 Views
Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM 1235 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1185 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1243 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1274 Views
Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1293 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1177 Views
Re: Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1171 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1236 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1199 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1189 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1119 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1185 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM 1173 Views
1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM 1257 Views
Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM* Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM 761 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1204 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1349 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1239 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1159 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1286 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1279 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples Sidious - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1189 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1276 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien Sidious - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1187 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1291 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1129 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1120 Views
... but I can't let this one go... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1368 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1363 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan Sidious - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1158 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1190 Views
if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM 1269 Views
i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM* Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM 1192 Views
Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM 1246 Views
Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken? How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch? Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM 1154 Views
I disagree Kieran - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1162 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1213 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear Kieran - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1200 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1218 Views
lol Kieran - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1219 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1268 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1213 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1135 Views
Exactly my point darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1153 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2448 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1274 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1251 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1188 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 1029 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1193 Views
Nope darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1227 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1387 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other Elvira_Sedai - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1317 Views
but whoever wins fistofpainx - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1250 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1315 Views
I actually think Lan would win darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1251 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1226 Views
If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM 677 Views
I think Lan, hands down. Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1117 Views
THANK you. Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9751 Views
Re: THANK you. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1229 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1398 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1099 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) Elvira_Sedai - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1280 Views
You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring. amirebram - 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM 1097 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 777 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 745 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Etzel - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1279 Views
That can't be right, can it? BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1259 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1313 Views
Huh .... Yondaime - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1268 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1251 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much Yondaime - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1225 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Gerbeaud - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1229 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 767 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1241 Views
These are pointless. Heiko - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1281 Views
These are scalar comparatives JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1248 Views
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