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I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM
that its a possibility, and certainly what I would do if I was Graendal. I've said it time and time again, I think that she's dead.

Just don't confuse this to mean unfounded assertions have similar credibility to coherent conclusions.


I don't know if you know me that well or not. But that's hardly my style. I'm often one of the fewest who holds to the edict that the simple explanation is the most likely correct one. So many in wot hunt zebras when they see hoof prints, but completely overlook the horse standing right there. That's not me.

In my years at wotmania, I wrote several theories which ended up correct....and none of them were proven wrong. We're talking real theories...not MB postings on fantastical ideas. My claim to fame is my theory on the Taint on Saidin, and how Rand could get rid of it. I had that figured out a good 3 books before RJ wrote it. I know the difference in credibility.


I was only talking about this post. You basically simply wrote a post conjuring up a hypothetical scenario, then said 'prove me wrong'. I would rather you have conjured that scenario and said 'this is what happened because of this, this, and this.' That is what I meant by unfounded assertions, and that's what it was.

Incidentally, I wouldn't consider Graendal a main character.

She's been in active play since, what, book 4? We've had chapters from her point of view. She's been one of the main-Shadow characters for a long time....

I'd consider her a main character. *shrug*

~Jeordam


I mostly remember her as being a secondary character in Sammael's plotline... I kept expecting her to come to the fron in this book, but she really didn't.
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1720 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 732 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 1028 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 593 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 953 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 633 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 670 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 412 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 762 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 738 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 922 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 707 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 931 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 696 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 799 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 418 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 725 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 716 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 638 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 717 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 766 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 668 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 882 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 792 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 628 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 394 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 543 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 410 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 870 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 782 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 1045 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 835 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 949 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 770 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 916 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 922 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 796 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 794 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 448 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 645 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 782 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 803 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 753 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 757 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 725 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 734 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 711 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 775 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 689 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 388 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 816 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 644 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 361 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 813 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 711 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 877 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 744 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 757 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 923 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 750 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 757 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 688 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 693 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 780 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 643 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 921 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 837 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 755 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 782 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 782 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 801 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 717 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 667 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 650 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 763 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 683 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 903 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 640 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 714 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 692 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 787 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 958 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 866 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 734 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 393 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 760 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 751 Views
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