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Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM
She was always very lightly Forkrooted. She never had enough to lose consciousness. Moghedien did.


What's more important is that Egwene was dosed to the point where she could barely channel a trickle to the point where she couldn't duplicate her earlier feat in the classroom. The fact of the matter is we readers have very little idea what the words 'heavily dosed' and 'lightly dosed' mean in this context - we don't have examples of exactly how many cups are needed to impede channeling ability, how close this dose is to the amount needed to make you drowsy (which is where Egwene was at many points during the latter part of her captivity) and the dose needed to completely knock you out. I've discussed this point before but it seems that forkroot has nothing at all to do with channeling ability or your ability to access your Talents and everything to do with your ability to concentrate to the extent needed to move, think and by extension use the Power or a weapon. So even though her consciousness and physiology was affected, she could still Dream.

What does Egwene have to do with this? I'm asking you why Moghedien didn't try using TAR to engineer an escape when she had an a'dam on her.


Not sure. Perhaps some limitation. I just brought Egwene up because she illustrates the point that being forkrooted doesn't interfere with Dreaming ability. For all we know being forkrooted heavy enough to fall unconscious might leave you stuck in the Dreamworld if you manage to get there, which might account for why Moghedien couldn't escape - her physical body was incapacitated.

That makes little or no sense. Behavior is all very well, but physical impossibility trumps such considerations. There's a 0% chance for Moggy to have killed Asmo.


It's a fictional series, so if the author wants to make up some limitation we haven't heard of, he could. Anyway, that makes more sense to me than either Lanfear or Slayer.
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