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Re: Obviously #2 Shishka Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM
I'm sure no one will agree, but Semi and Graendal being Balefired was a direct result of this revelation.


I don't think there is any question that they were a direct result - Rand thought about needing to BF the Forsaken several times, after Moridin made the revelation.

The question is whether the Shadow intended those results.

I feel that Moridin engineered both those events (with Graendal), so that Rand would severely destabilize the Pattern while attempting (and sometimes succeeding) to kill the Forsaken.


See my comments to RPA & Etzel. It's hard for me to see how Moridin & the DO would consider the BF death of any of the Chosen as a net gain, in terms of the damage caused to the Pattern. Presumably, the chaos each Chosen causes in the Pattern is much greater than his/her individual death by BF would cause.

Of course, in the Graendal case, it wasn't just one death, but, what, hundreds? But, could the Shadow have predicted that Rand/LTT would ever use BF so massively?

In Semirhage's case, the BF effect on the Pattern was negligible, I would imagine. Assuming she was set up, the purpose was to tempt Rand with the TP, not to see Semirhage balefired, I think.
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Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? Shishka - 01/02/2010 03:41:30 PM 1483 Views
I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 04:21:39 PM 826 Views
Re: I think it's #2. Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:29:20 PM 628 Views
Re: I think it's #2. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 05:51:20 PM 725 Views
I see what you mean. Shishka - 01/02/2010 06:28:24 PM 663 Views
Nods darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:37:51 PM 592 Views
Hahahahahahaha. That's hilarious. "I think its #2." Classic! callandor1000 - 01/02/2010 10:39:19 PM 1193 Views
Yep, I'm not really 100% on most things in the series unless there is no doubt. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:03:31 PM 516 Views
No, I mean, #2 means "shit". HAHAHAHA!!! *NM* callandor1000 - 04/02/2010 10:25:45 PM 352 Views
Obviously #2 fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 04:42:24 PM 609 Views
Re: Obviously #2 Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:47:31 PM 643 Views
I have a fairly controversial answer... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 08:16:31 PM 603 Views
Re: I have a fairly controversial answer... Shishka - 01/02/2010 08:48:20 PM 613 Views
I agree that it is difficult... fionwe1987 - 01/02/2010 09:49:38 PM 489 Views
Re: I agree that it is difficult... darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 10:46:56 PM 567 Views
Moridin probably just wanted the access key to prevent the Cleansing Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:26:11 AM 7019 Views
no reason to take the tool that allowed Rand to Cleanse saidin? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 01:34:59 PM 585 Views
We don't even know if SH knew about the access key in the box Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:09:32 PM 509 Views
So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 02:14:58 PM 528 Views
If Elza had the order to take the access key, she would have taken it Etzel - 02/02/2010 02:29:08 PM 535 Views
As I've said a million times... I'm on the fence with this theory darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 03:52:31 PM 986 Views
Again: there wasn't a Forsaken near the opened box. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 04:22:32 PM 485 Views
So SH is the idiot? Okay! darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 04:59:36 PM 599 Views
He might not know about the access key in the box or have other priorities. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:20:36 PM 453 Views
Elza certainly knows what it is darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:40:46 PM 497 Views
Re: So the DO's Hand doesn't know about the AK? And we have a quote with Elza's orders where? Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 08:00:20 PM 620 Views
You are actually supporting my point darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 06:39:32 PM 568 Views
Because Moridin sees it for what it is: a tool. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:56:15 PM 730 Views
It's a mix, IMO Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:00:07 PM 603 Views
Re: It's a mix, IMO Shishka - 01/02/2010 05:20:42 PM 669 Views
In the same scene Etzel - 01/02/2010 05:36:45 PM 630 Views
Re: In the same scene Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:16:56 PM 564 Views
Personally... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:53:07 AM 477 Views
#3 IMO, though I kind of hope it was #2. *NM* Lord Haart - 01/02/2010 05:37:32 PM 298 Views
#4 - Maybe Sandokat - 01/02/2010 07:05:33 PM 542 Views
Re: #4 - Maybe Shishka - 01/02/2010 07:23:17 PM 580 Views
i dont think Morodin needs trust super nova - 01/02/2010 11:57:20 PM 621 Views
#4 - Part of his intoxication DomA - 02/02/2010 06:26:35 AM 528 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 02/02/2010 02:47:54 PM 561 Views
#3 - Moridin is the WoT Goth BlackAdder - 02/02/2010 04:31:09 PM 534 Views
Re: Why did Moridin reveal that balefire prevents transmigration? saidarisnowtainted - 24/02/2010 02:01:01 PM 599 Views
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