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Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere Send a noteboard - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM
...and the papacy in the real world during the Renaissance and Reformation periods is pretty darn amazing. You even have people kneeling before the Amyrlin and kissiing her ring...

Think of the Sitters as the College of Cardinals, and the Amyrlin as the Pope, and you'll see why the Aes Sedai in the Tower seem so ineffectual now...

If the human brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't understand it.
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1178 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 766 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 483 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 787 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 745 Views
Really? - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 716 Views
Re: Really? - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 681 Views
So lets add a few more - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 684 Views
most of these are accounted for above - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 756 Views
But who did the work? - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 608 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 632 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 618 Views
Actually I think that's his point - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 701 Views
Spot-on - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 529 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 569 Views
Re: But who did the work? - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 642 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 669 Views
well, yeah - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 738 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 610 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 605 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 564 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 608 Views
I'm not convinced that it does - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 708 Views
I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 631 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 679 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 612 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 811 Views
Re: I don't understand your point - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 590 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 608 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 553 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 624 Views
No you are talking about Elaida - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 546 Views
You just made our point... - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 643 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 548 Views
Not at all... - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 658 Views
To a certain extent - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 792 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 634 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 748 Views
Without the Tower - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 544 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 589 Views
Agrees with Nossy - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 885 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 549 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 890 Views

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