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It didn't when Romanda retook her Oaths in TGS darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 07:13:20 PM
It would have taken some time off the end of her life perhaps, however I doubt it would have killed her outright, otherwise it would be a death sentance, and the Age of Legends was about peace and harmony


And, I doubt AoLers would have created a ter'angreal that could only be used on AS who were younger than a certain age, or hadn't reached the mid-point of their lifespans, etc. They would have created something that could be used on a channeler of any age, IMO.


Semirhage's choice of punishment was severing or 'being bound against her pleasures and seeing the end of her life approach'. It seems that the Oath Rod creates a finite limit on a channeler's life. Considering almost no Aes Sedai live past 300, it fits in well with a calculable lifespan after being bound.

IMO the rod cuts your life in half, and while most strong women live to about 700 years, a bound woman lives for half that. If Mesaana is 300 years old, it might have aged her instantly.


She's nearly 300 and retook them without anything happening.
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Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod Shishka - 18/01/2010 04:50:29 PM 2633 Views
I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye Sidious - 18/01/2010 05:12:12 PM 1279 Views
Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye HyogaRott - 18/01/2010 05:43:26 PM 1188 Views
I like that idea ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1067 Views
A little archaic though Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:58:04 PM 1056 Views
Just because she's an academic ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:27:50 PM 1164 Views
Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye Shishka - 18/01/2010 05:58:44 PM 1045 Views
I don't think Messana would have fallen over dead Ryan - 18/01/2010 06:06:35 PM 1099 Views
I agree ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:15:25 PM 988 Views
I'm not sure Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:54:51 PM 1009 Views
It didn't when Romanda retook her Oaths in TGS darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:13:20 PM 834 Views
Hmmm ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:24:51 PM 1002 Views
No she unswore them and retook them darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:33:30 PM 1054 Views
Yeah, I realized that after I posted, so I editted my post (again) ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:36:39 PM 1020 Views
I'm not sure I follow darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:41:19 PM 1026 Views
The point I was trying to make was ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:05:16 PM 814 Views
Now I get it ... seems needlessly complex for the Oath Rod though darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 08:21:35 PM 809 Views
Yes, this is what I was thinking *NM* PhoenixReborn - 18/01/2010 08:29:20 PM 403 Views
What you suggested is pretty much what I've always thought ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:39:30 PM 824 Views
yup darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:02:04 PM 711 Views
I'm with you, though ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 09:27:59 PM 976 Views
The closest evidence we have is a Stilled/Burned out woman darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:49:41 PM 820 Views
But if being unbound reverts you to your normal lifespan, then being bound isn't really a punishment *NM* PhoenixReborn - 18/01/2010 09:52:29 PM 408 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 10:02:09 PM 860 Views
Also ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 10:13:38 PM 845 Views
I considered that ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 10:11:32 PM 941 Views
I doubt we'll ever really know darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 10:26:43 PM 861 Views
Re: I'm not sure Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:22:34 PM 877 Views
interesting darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:46:12 PM 715 Views
Re: interesting Shishka - 18/01/2010 08:18:11 PM 867 Views
see above *NM* darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 08:23:28 PM 431 Views
I think it more like aging them faster... PhoenixReborn - 18/01/2010 08:24:56 PM 916 Views
and given how things in the AoL works this seems far more likely darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 08:32:52 PM 875 Views
Re: I'm not sure HyogaRott - 20/01/2010 12:59:27 PM 868 Views
She's not immortal ... yet darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 04:15:03 PM 771 Views
The Dark Ones Mark possibly could black the oath rod? *NM* Kieran - 20/01/2010 01:28:08 AM 397 Views
No, that can't be it, because when AS become Black Ajah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 02:53:21 PM 796 Views
But Alviarin's mark is different. Perhaps the mark of a FS is too *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 04:21:16 PM 375 Views
Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting. *NM* Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:19:02 PM 395 Views
Re: Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting. Kieran - 22/01/2010 01:52:51 AM 951 Views
actually it's different darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:32:18 AM 915 Views
actually I think it's the same... Kieran - 23/01/2010 01:49:19 AM 608 Views
Nup. Unlike the FS, her mark will not allow her to order Darkspawn (plus more). *NM* Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:50:36 AM 404 Views
Which has nothing to do with my post regarding the Oath rod... *NM* Kieran - 24/01/2010 10:44:59 PM 401 Views
One point... fionwe1987 - 18/01/2010 06:12:26 PM 993 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:21:22 PM 784 Views
here's another quote that gives us darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 07:12:09 PM 1030 Views
FYI ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:50:22 PM 955 Views
Re: FYI ... Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:56:02 PM 1009 Views
Therava channeled the flow, in that case ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 07:11:00 PM 687 Views
Yes Sidious - 18/01/2010 06:55:22 PM 765 Views
Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye Datakim - 18/01/2010 06:10:45 PM 833 Views
Re: Replacing it with a fake Logain - 18/01/2010 06:22:33 PM 811 Views
I highly doubt it ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 06:23:55 PM 870 Views
Why not ask somebody else to stand in for you? Artsapat - 19/01/2010 07:55:39 PM 890 Views
I like this idea. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 03:11:51 AM 381 Views
I agree... Etzel - 18/01/2010 06:55:33 PM 969 Views
Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod randfandom - 18/01/2010 09:43:34 PM 955 Views
I'm thinking the point of the thread is to discuss how to beat the Oath Rod, not Mesaana's disguise darius_sedai - 18/01/2010 09:59:18 PM 785 Views
Right, and also ... Shishka - 18/01/2010 10:17:11 PM 804 Views
Except that the best way to 'defeat' the Oath rod is - not to take the Oaths at all Lord Haart - 19/01/2010 03:18:43 AM 713 Views
IMHO... Great Lord of Chaos - 19/01/2010 03:41:10 AM 996 Views
Another interesting possibility Skeeve the Great - 19/01/2010 05:08:42 PM 805 Views
I'd say it was highly unlikely that the Binder/Oath Rod works that way. *NM* Shishka - 19/01/2010 06:06:49 PM 344 Views
We've seen pretty weird stuff happens before Skeeve the Great - 19/01/2010 06:30:12 PM 875 Views
Oh, I agree ... Shishka - 19/01/2010 06:47:52 PM 678 Views
Re: Oh, I agree ... found a few tidbits ... EDIT darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 06:55:22 PM 817 Views
Heh, I had just dug up that quote myself, before I saw your edit ... Shishka - 19/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 840 Views
I agree, it seems as if Moghedien just effectively transmigrated Birgitte darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 10:00:45 PM 915 Views
she could just be posing as a non-channeler. badassashaman - 19/01/2010 05:52:01 PM 784 Views
If RJ/Brandon lied about that... then maybe Demandred is Taim after all. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 03:20:42 AM 346 Views
To speak no word that is not true Tor - 19/01/2010 10:06:30 PM 858 Views
Could there be a true word, though? Camilla - 20/01/2010 03:47:46 PM 1108 Views
I had a similar discussion with someone else, long ago ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 04:05:03 PM 756 Views
Or would just be able to say "true, true. True true true, true true." etc. *NM* Lord Haart - 21/01/2010 06:17:20 PM 391 Views
In going through some old RJ quotes I found this gem... darius_sedai - 19/01/2010 10:22:03 PM 1127 Views
Nice find! Not sure if that is a "way to defeat the Oath Rod" exactly, but it's certainly feasible. Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 03:19:51 AM 968 Views
Wow, that's great. I wonder what else can be created there, like sa'angeals, etc. BlackAdder - 20/01/2010 03:54:01 AM 745 Views
Good find, I had forgotten about that quote ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 02:42:55 PM 851 Views
Yes Etzel - 20/01/2010 03:03:53 PM 837 Views
Agreed - our guts are thinking alike again. *NM* Shishka - 20/01/2010 03:12:30 PM 383 Views
Indeed Etzel - 20/01/2010 03:28:12 PM 733 Views
Oh I agree! I just thought it was funny that RJ made such a quote darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 04:20:09 PM 844 Views
In the AoL... fionwe1987 - 20/01/2010 04:49:24 PM 921 Views
Re: In the AoL... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:17:55 PM 712 Views
I was thinking this too Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:18:19 PM 878 Views
Still seems like two oaths, to me, due to the "and" ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:27:03 PM 743 Views
The "and" means nothing... fionwe1987 - 20/01/2010 08:01:27 PM 693 Views
Re: Good find, I had forgotten about that quote ... Great Lord of Chaos - 21/01/2010 05:24:18 AM 1058 Views
I like it, mainly because it points to Mesaana being bested by Egwene in T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:26:34 PM 723 Views
Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod Mikerad - 20/01/2010 04:11:37 AM 843 Views
Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 07:28:39 AM 793 Views
It can't be that easy ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 02:51:47 PM 801 Views
maybe she warded herself before goin in or just set her frame of mind to beat it *NM* nigelgoboom - 21/01/2010 02:07:17 AM 433 Views
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