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True... I forgot... Ashaman Narishma Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 07:18:25 PM
Frankly, the story of Ashaman tiring because they had to keep the gateway open is a mistake by Sanderson.

In CoS, Sammael opens gateways for the Shaido and Graendal notes that he had tied some of the gateway off with a loose knot to dissipate after a predetermined period of time.

And in KoD, Rand and Logain make Deathgates that open and close to random locations, tie off 6 weaves at once and start weaving more Deathgates.

So there is actually no need to actively hold open a gateway. You can just open it, tie it off and move on to creating your next gateway immediately.

And as RJ said, a tied off weave can exist for eternity if you tie a permanent knot in it. No need for elaborate cuendillar contraptions.


about knotting a weave to hold it... I do like the idea of the cuendillar frame just because if you are squeezing through a doorway in multiples of people at a time you wouldnt have to worry about someone bumping you into the edge... I for one would be terrified to come within a yard of the edge of a gateway for the fear that someone may bump me into it and kill me... Cuendillar gateway safety shields so to say... With the incorporating them into your home or some such it would help keep your house from being damaged by a gateway frame... you would be able to fit a lockable door into the frame that enables you to shut the pathway...
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Cuendillar and Perpetual Gateways - 14/01/2010 03:32:15 PM 1524 Views
I'm still not sure if cuendillar would be "destroyed" or "remain" - 14/01/2010 03:55:00 PM 711 Views
well I think you've discovered something even more important - 14/01/2010 05:00:11 PM 740 Views
I love it... - 14/01/2010 06:23:59 PM 613 Views
exactly! *NM* - 14/01/2010 06:50:19 PM 310 Views
Quick question ... - 15/01/2010 01:34:21 AM 724 Views
No - cuendillar just gets stronger the more powerful a force you use against it - 15/01/2010 07:55:34 PM 622 Views
Re: Cuendillar and Perpetual Gateways - 14/01/2010 04:42:37 PM 666 Views
Cuendillar shields - 14/01/2010 04:57:45 PM 709 Views
Wasn't the consensus... - 14/01/2010 05:04:50 PM 717 Views
Really? - 14/01/2010 05:30:40 PM 625 Views
Re: Really? - 14/01/2010 05:52:45 PM 594 Views
Alright. - 14/01/2010 06:25:27 PM 554 Views
Even so... - 14/01/2010 06:30:35 PM 656 Views
Not sure, but the discussion might be saved somewhere (maybe in my e-mail somehow) - 14/01/2010 07:12:42 PM 768 Views
Lack of Creativity / Flame - 14/01/2010 07:31:32 PM 685 Views
let's do some quick math to see how feasible this is... - 15/01/2010 12:16:02 AM 530 Views
Again, Lack of Creativity - 15/01/2010 12:54:01 AM 570 Views
right cause they are full of new ideas in WoT! - 15/01/2010 12:57:52 AM 540 Views
Huh? Are you saying that... - 15/01/2010 01:49:23 AM 564 Views
It's not just a matter of creativity - 15/01/2010 03:42:38 AM 652 Views
Are you trying to be funny? - 15/01/2010 09:22:18 AM 620 Views
I think what people are saying to you (at least what I am saying) - 15/01/2010 07:58:31 PM 722 Views
What I am telling you all (at least telling you) - 15/01/2010 08:12:32 PM 524 Views
I disagree with part of that - 15/01/2010 08:17:30 PM 853 Views
The vast majority of WoT folk aren't particularly innovative - 15/01/2010 08:02:52 PM 541 Views
Pretty much. I think their religion is not doing anything helpful with the Power. - 15/01/2010 09:13:49 PM 519 Views
Mail is obviously out of the question... - 15/01/2010 12:54:32 AM 638 Views
realistically the timeframes involved to make even the shields - 15/01/2010 01:03:30 AM 626 Views
Kind of disagree. - 15/01/2010 01:37:42 AM 591 Views
We agree... maybe? - 15/01/2010 09:27:32 AM 602 Views
both - 15/01/2010 08:00:26 PM 516 Views
Please explain - 15/01/2010 09:29:29 AM 610 Views
not saying mail... - 14/01/2010 07:33:06 PM 543 Views
hey look! someone with creativity! - 15/01/2010 09:30:29 AM 666 Views
Cuendillar dragons are great... - 14/01/2010 06:45:12 PM 609 Views
Create a ter'angreal that can open gateways wherever it is pointed and triggered. - 14/01/2010 04:59:28 PM 570 Views
Maybe this was one of the violent games played for sport during The Collapse *NM* - 14/01/2010 05:14:05 PM 267 Views
Without a doubt *NM* - 14/01/2010 05:26:42 PM 273 Views
Or they could just tie the gateway weave off, like Sammael did in CoS, and Rand did in KoD... - 14/01/2010 07:11:56 PM 764 Views
Thanks; I thought this was the case but couldnt recall the sections. - 14/01/2010 07:13:32 PM 533 Views
True... I forgot... - 14/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 627 Views
Tied-off weaves dont last forever - 14/01/2010 07:39:53 PM 574 Views
No... - 14/01/2010 07:48:38 PM 635 Views
Correct. Q&A answer below regarding this. - 14/01/2010 09:08:02 PM 638 Views
Bingo - 14/01/2010 08:25:12 PM 583 Views
Refrigerators and aqueducts and more... Air Conditioning! - 14/01/2010 07:49:12 PM 646 Views
Is a gateway fixed in place? - 14/01/2010 07:55:20 PM 625 Views

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