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Sure Gher Send a noteboard - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM
But most likely not when she was involved with Rand. She may have reported on her escapades with Rand in TGH to her superiors, but I don't think she ever sabotaged Rand. I don't doubt that she sowed discord among his 'followers' who were scheming like crazy behind his back, but her plan was to help the Dragon Reborn, and at that point she'd decided that Cadsuane could be trusted. (I can't quite remember, but IIRC the scene mentioned in the original post is after Verin decides not to poison her isn't it?)

And in the years leading up to Rand's birth and Moiraine's discovery of him, Verin probably killed, tortured, kidnapped and jaywalked with the best of them. But then she was there to help Rand.
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A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 04:20:20 AM 2886 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 04:46:01 AM 1361 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 04:47:58 AM 1325 Views
I wondered at the phrasing of that passage ... - 14/01/2010 03:41:36 AM 1144 Views
Heh, you ironically misspelled "spell" *NM* - 14/01/2010 04:47:55 AM 682 Views
RJ was Aes Sedai to the core! - 14/01/2010 06:33:45 AM 1273 Views
I was under the impression that SH got the Band - 14/01/2010 09:10:48 AM 1111 Views
I, too, have suspicions ... - 13/01/2010 06:11:12 AM 1290 Views
I agree! - 13/01/2010 07:13:10 AM 1117 Views
I doubt that there is anything in the book .... - 14/01/2010 02:58:47 AM 1075 Views
Re: I doubt that there is anything in the book .... - 14/01/2010 06:44:39 AM 971 Views
Wow, you should add a spoiler alert to your thread. - 13/01/2010 06:36:45 AM 1180 Views
Why couldn't have Elza got them? - 13/01/2010 06:42:03 AM 1229 Views
Re: Didn't Shadar Haran free Semirage? - 13/01/2010 06:44:56 AM 1263 Views
IMO Bair is also a suspect - 13/01/2010 07:18:15 AM 1093 Views
SH has all kinds of strange powers - 14/01/2010 05:52:06 PM 901 Views
Yeah, SH is a wildcard - 15/01/2010 02:20:52 AM 1056 Views
Re: Why couldn't have Elza got them? - 13/01/2010 10:12:07 PM 1000 Views
It was brought up a while back in one of the earlier discussion threads - 13/01/2010 06:47:33 AM 1131 Views
The whole forum is full of spoilers *NM* - 13/01/2010 07:11:38 AM 635 Views
Be more careful. Spoilers are freely allowed now. *NM* - 13/01/2010 04:05:27 PM 621 Views
He didn't mean it as a tGS spoiler - 13/01/2010 04:09:17 PM 991 Views
Exactly. I have this thing with theories ... - 13/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 1051 Views
then how do you read the forums at all? - 13/01/2010 11:20:54 PM 1007 Views
With caution. - 14/01/2010 07:41:39 PM 1085 Views
I'm kind of the opposite I guess - 14/01/2010 08:50:36 PM 1055 Views
My gut feeling tells that Sorilea isn't a DF - 13/01/2010 11:24:33 AM 1264 Views
My gut agrees with your gut. *NM* - 13/01/2010 01:31:08 PM 531 Views
Great guts think alike! *NM* - 13/01/2010 03:06:29 PM 516 Views
And fool guts, seldom differ! *NM* - 13/01/2010 05:10:41 PM 560 Views
My gut would have gotten me killed in WOT - 13/01/2010 10:18:15 PM 1023 Views
Haha I love how the DFs are coming from all over the place! *NM* - 14/01/2010 04:57:19 PM 597 Views
Me neither - 14/01/2010 08:30:27 PM 938 Views
I don't think so - 13/01/2010 06:02:40 PM 1087 Views
perhaps, but Semirhage is also in disgrace - 13/01/2010 06:53:04 PM 1015 Views
Actually it was very much like a DF - 13/01/2010 10:21:46 PM 1199 Views
I don't buy it - 14/01/2010 08:29:05 PM 934 Views
the thread started by pointing out Verin implies Sorilea may not be on the same side... - 14/01/2010 09:26:51 PM 1053 Views
Moiraine said as much to Egwene long before that - 15/01/2010 11:07:20 AM 1075 Views
we'll just have to RAFO - 15/01/2010 04:13:17 PM 901 Views
Not quite, IMO - 13/01/2010 11:53:46 PM 1047 Views
and Verin told us that you could betray the FS if you could justify it - 13/01/2010 11:55:32 PM 1102 Views
Exactly - 13/01/2010 11:58:46 PM 1038 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 13/01/2010 09:05:19 PM 910 Views
Elza already had the DB when she freed Semirhage from captivity - 14/01/2010 12:24:00 AM 1074 Views
Sorilea never saw the wards unraveled. And I'm pretty sure they were inverted. - 14/01/2010 12:44:58 AM 965 Views
inverted yes, but she was standing right there when Cadsuane unwove them - 14/01/2010 12:47:26 AM 949 Views
As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. - 14/01/2010 03:27:04 AM 1042 Views
Re: As Sorilea closed the door behind the three of them, Cadsuane disarmed the box's traps. - 14/01/2010 06:43:16 AM 991 Views
Did you see what you wrote? - 14/01/2010 03:12:58 PM 1050 Views
The point was that Sorilea knew two key pieces of information from that moment - 14/01/2010 03:38:27 PM 937 Views
She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... - 14/01/2010 05:10:58 PM 1007 Views
Re: She knew only one, and that was known to Bair too... - 14/01/2010 05:29:39 PM 1027 Views
How do you know Caddy embraced the source only then? - 14/01/2010 07:35:00 PM 884 Views
so you contend that she was walking around holding the Source the whole time? - 14/01/2010 08:52:10 PM 1154 Views
Very possible. *NM* - 14/01/2010 09:14:21 PM 437 Views
Bair is at least as strong a suspect - 14/01/2010 09:17:27 PM 1016 Views
I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory - 14/01/2010 08:34:21 PM 838 Views
That's a bit of a leap. - 14/01/2010 08:55:36 PM 737 Views
Re: I don't think Brandon's statement support your theory - 17/01/2010 10:03:13 AM 1241 Views
I disagree that Verin would have tried to create suspicion or discord. - 14/01/2010 03:16:32 AM 1069 Views
Yet Verin herself tells us that she did things for the Shadow... - 14/01/2010 06:51:39 AM 981 Views
Sure - 14/01/2010 05:18:56 PM 978 Views
certainly her intentions were to be one of the good guys - 14/01/2010 05:40:26 PM 916 Views
I agree. - 14/01/2010 05:53:58 PM 912 Views
this scene does happen before she is "sure" of Cadsuane - 14/01/2010 06:07:19 PM 870 Views
Alright. - 14/01/2010 06:17:18 PM 1040 Views
This would be a great development. - 14/01/2010 04:55:29 PM 1012 Views
that's exactly the type of foreshadowing I would expect - 14/01/2010 06:48:25 PM 1034 Views
IMO either she or Bair are a DF - 14/01/2010 06:58:57 PM 1091 Views
this is pure RJ - 14/01/2010 07:07:09 PM 1226 Views
True ... my personal fav is "if she's not BA she's the next thing to it" - 14/01/2010 09:01:05 PM 1017 Views
Have we ever seen two different races of darkfriends working together? - 14/01/2010 08:46:48 PM 954 Views
yes - Suroth and Liandrin *NM* - 14/01/2010 08:49:16 PM 691 Views
Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points - 14/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1372 Views
Re: Milli/Shiane, Carridin, Falion and Old Cully were all in cahoots at various points - 15/01/2010 11:08:13 AM 8171 Views
and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? - 15/01/2010 04:14:42 PM 914 Views
Re: and then SH shows up out of the goodness of his own heart? - 16/01/2010 05:09:17 PM 1004 Views
I think they were told via a DF in the group that she had been broken - 16/01/2010 06:11:01 PM 997 Views
Yes, Kadere and that Aiel chick. - 15/01/2010 12:15:42 AM 883 Views
Re: A clue that Sorilea is a Dark Friend? - 17/01/2010 10:07:11 AM 1022 Views
I wish it were so, but one of the FAQ's destroys this clue - 17/01/2010 03:01:47 PM 1009 Views

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