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Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM
I think it's rather likely that the DO really wanted to capture Rand at this point, as SH (and before him, Moridin) ordered it. What happened then, namely Semirhage forcing Rand to kill Min & Rand using the TP via the link to Moridin, wasn't predictable, IMO.

But even if the DO truly just wanted Rand to use the TP, he certainly didn't care if Semirhage was broken or not.
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Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Shannow - 12/01/2010 01:38:04 PM 1386 Views
I don't think Cadsuane learned anything from Semirhage... Etzel - 12/01/2010 02:09:26 PM 811 Views
Of course it was necessary to the plot. It's why Shaitan sacrificed Semirhage. *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 04:28:10 PM 305 Views
Doubt that Rand's TP use was intended Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:44:12 PM 639 Views
It seems very reasonable that the DO would give Rand access to the TP beetnemesis - 12/01/2010 05:22:17 PM 660 Views
i thought BSand said that the DO wasn't aware ... am I making that up? *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:24:26 PM 280 Views
Rand was captured and helpless... Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:41:20 PM 696 Views
That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2010 10:48:57 PM 642 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 12/01/2010 11:10:14 PM 592 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 04:54:51 AM 684 Views
A rescue attempt at SG seems pretty difficult, though. And Min would be dead. Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:09:33 AM 585 Views
But Avi, Elayne and Alanna would be alive... fionwe1987 - 13/01/2010 05:53:18 PM 686 Views
Well... Etzel - 13/01/2010 06:01:35 PM 651 Views
Re: That argument is wrong... Datakim - 13/01/2010 11:02:05 AM 616 Views
I doubt... Etzel - 13/01/2010 08:05:24 AM 544 Views
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO USE THE TRUE POWER WITHOUT SHAI'TAN'S CONSENT. Tom - 12/01/2010 08:20:30 PM 621 Views
Maybe and maybe not Datakim - 12/01/2010 08:31:31 PM 600 Views
What Datakim said... Etzel - 12/01/2010 08:42:45 PM 656 Views
Funny when reading that chapter wheelwright - 13/01/2010 07:08:29 PM 713 Views
We will see. The revelation what was really going on will be very interesting in any case! *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 11:11:15 AM 287 Views
I predict we'll learn all about this in Graendal's ToM POV *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:16:21 PM 281 Views
I rather think we will learn this from Moridin. *NM* Etzel - 14/01/2010 06:29:32 PM 285 Views
you are likely correct *NM* darius_sedai - 14/01/2010 06:39:42 PM 317 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Madman - 12/01/2010 02:23:28 PM 690 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? Watcher - 12/01/2010 04:07:47 PM 708 Views
But would the Shadow want her to do what Moghidien and Asmodean did? Ryan - 12/01/2010 04:44:42 PM 566 Views
IMO: Yes. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 03:43:16 PM 685 Views
I think... Etzel - 12/01/2010 04:52:00 PM 664 Views
I have doubts about this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 05:20:27 PM 661 Views
But why would the Shadow tell Cadsuane & Co.? Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:50:19 PM 633 Views
Because Semirhage was broken and may have revealed it to them under interrogation/spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/01/2010 06:53:35 PM 293 Views
Hmm, I doubt that Semirhage knew this, since she was concentrated on the Seanchan & Rand. Etzel - 12/01/2010 07:12:45 PM 601 Views
I agree that it's much more likely that Sulin told them about Tam *NM* darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 07:30:32 PM 292 Views
Re: IMO: Yes. ajah - 17/01/2010 07:07:12 AM 523 Views
I don't think so, but that doesn't mean it was "for nothing". Tom - 12/01/2010 04:26:57 PM 633 Views
Just one Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:00:26 PM 646 Views
But already before her "breaking". *NM* Etzel - 12/01/2010 05:02:24 PM 273 Views
Yes Sidious - 12/01/2010 05:16:03 PM 604 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? darius_sedai - 12/01/2010 05:23:29 PM 654 Views
Re: Did Cadsuane actually get any secrets from Semirhage during her breakdown? ajah - 17/01/2010 07:08:29 AM 663 Views
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