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Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM
When in fact they are closer to Prisoners of War. So what Rand did was nuke a POW camp because a high ranking General for the enemy was there. How well do you think a legitimate Military Organization would treat a General who did that?


I am not. I am judging the morality. I know they are not combatants. They are civilians, NOT prisoners of war. One might be construed as having some moral obligations to POWs. Your analogy would be more correct if you said concentration camp, rather than POW camp, and that would STILL be a valid target in the situation you describe any way. Just because some government bureaucracy obsessed with image and media double-standards might disapprove of something does not make it immoral. I guess you agree that homosexuality is grounds for dismissal & exclusion then, as the most prominent legitimate Military Organization in the world feels?
Cannoli
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1586 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 986 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 981 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1009 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 914 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 825 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 943 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 855 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 824 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 778 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 765 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 735 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 761 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 743 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 900 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 809 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 868 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 748 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 844 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 782 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 778 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 768 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1257 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 877 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 892 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 805 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 920 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 727 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 769 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 406 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 795 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 797 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 765 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 443 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 743 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 378 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 753 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 729 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 862 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 781 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 821 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 813 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 798 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 796 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 818 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 774 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 755 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 731 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 826 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 715 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 805 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 785 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 796 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 811 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 751 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 824 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 755 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 696 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 877 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 810 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 784 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 745 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 801 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 709 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 734 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 886 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 732 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 736 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 815 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 758 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 790 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 870 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 737 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 741 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 806 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 743 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 889 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 844 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 796 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 830 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 726 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 833 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 773 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 818 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 741 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 815 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 976 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1083 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 710 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 753 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 821 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 734 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1031 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 775 Views
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