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For the last time! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM
6 Aes Sedai cannot defeat Guare Amalasan or Yurian Stonebow. Those Aes Sedai were likely stronger than today's sisters, but even if they weren't, that means you need at least 7 Aes Sedai to defeat a man of that strength. Elayne's maximum potential is about 2.5 average sisters, going by the Amys plus Melaine comparison, but even if she's as strong as 3 sisters, it means she would have to link with 4 more sisters to have a chance of defeating Taim.


How do you know that it was an issue of strength alone? What about that fact that Amalasan was fighting to kill whereas the Aes Sedai were trying to capture? What about the advantage men enjoy that they can sense women channeling? How about the fact that you seemingly need to be much stronger to shield a male?

I'm not for a moment suggesting that Elayne's circle could shield all three men if they were holding saidin. But that hardly means they do not match the strength of these men. With the advantages of the circle, Elayne may well have been able to cause a lot more destruction than Taim and his cronies.
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Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Sidious - 07/01/2010 03:34:05 PM 1427 Views
Basically you have to be ready for anything! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:45:31 PM 779 Views
Yep. Send Daigian in Linked with 12 of her buddies (one of whom is holding an angreal) & hes screwed RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:19:03 PM 996 Views
Miscommunication seems to be a major theme of the series *NM* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:17:16 PM 394 Views
As well as missed opportunities. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:27:56 PM 705 Views
yes, the Amyrlin story line could have been wrapped up much earlier! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:55:30 PM 810 Views
Yeah, I really wish his vision had been pushed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:16:15 PM 639 Views
ROFL darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 01:01:03 AM 614 Views
Re: ROFL RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:43:50 PM 653 Views
For a major theme, it sure is surprising Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:22 AM 694 Views
really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 04:53:48 AM 631 Views
Re: really? miscommunication seems to be woven into just about every sentence Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:10:04 PM 724 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:48:14 PM 814 Views
Thanks for pointing to that Taim incident... its another proof... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 04:15:33 PM 773 Views
I always like to think that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha Linked can match Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:26:35 PM 701 Views
Those three... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 05:35:24 PM 673 Views
I think this is probably close darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 07:19:40 PM 827 Views
Sidious - 07/01/2010 08:51:15 PM 850 Views
HA! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:01:14 PM 795 Views
Re: HA! Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:37:06 AM 822 Views
Re: HA! fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:21:01 PM 628 Views
d'oh ... you've got him there darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:35:15 PM 565 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 03:02:04 PM 614 Views
Re: Hmm... darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 04:47:05 PM 735 Views
Re: Hmm... Sidious - 09/01/2010 05:06:06 PM 727 Views
as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 06:20:26 PM 827 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:32:57 PM 2954 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 09:05:01 PM 812 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose Sidious - 09/01/2010 09:15:32 PM 955 Views
Re: as we've discussed in the past, it's very loose darius_sedai - 10/01/2010 02:06:09 AM 764 Views
There are issues, of course! fionwe1987 - 09/01/2010 06:17:08 PM 933 Views
Re: There are issues, of course! Sidious - 09/01/2010 07:18:03 PM 886 Views
I think I fall in between you guys darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 08:46:58 PM 817 Views
Getting tired of this merry go round, but here we go again... Shannow - 07/01/2010 09:08:59 PM 726 Views
Don't get on it! It causes insanity. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:29:15 PM 634 Views
d'uh darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:57:30 PM 721 Views
For the last time! fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 09:50:16 PM 897 Views
it's about EFFECTIVE strength Fionwe (jk) darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:05:48 PM 590 Views
I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... fionwe1987 - 07/01/2010 10:11:46 PM 705 Views
and he's gone out of his way IMO to show that it's a stupid darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 10:41:03 PM 761 Views
Re: I don't think they were that bad back then, but still... Sidious - 08/01/2010 11:38:48 AM 623 Views
I'd actually go with Elayne in matters of battle. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:47:34 PM 732 Views
Wow, I wasn't expecting that Sidious - 08/01/2010 02:55:53 PM 815 Views
I'm not too impressed with the Forsaken so far. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 03:30:43 PM 635 Views
I'm tempted to go with Taim too, but... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 04:25:52 PM 678 Views
If Elayne had wanted Taim dead, he and his minions would have been dead darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 05:41:29 PM 728 Views
The reverse would be true too, though... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 05:50:02 PM 639 Views
But she just heard Taim say to basically stand down darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 06:05:43 PM 690 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 08/01/2010 08:53:11 PM 889 Views
Ah but Elayne also knew they knew Rand wouldn't allow it darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 10:40:45 PM 739 Views
That whole lack of communication thing made my eye twitch. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 11:00:25 PM 750 Views
or just painfully stupid! darius_sedai - 08/01/2010 11:10:37 PM 573 Views
Re: But... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:20:12 AM 745 Views
Re: Is Rand logical when he estimates female danger? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 05:13:48 PM 627 Views
I think he is illogical towards all danger, regardless of gender. amirebram - 07/01/2010 06:39:37 PM 641 Views
Do fat kids run marathons? No. And no Rand isn't logical when he estimates female danger. *NM* callandor1000 - 07/01/2010 06:44:08 PM 456 Views
It's all kind of irrelevant. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:28:46 PM 905 Views
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