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Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM
The way it reads sounds like it could take a lot of time after someone's death to secure the right body... so unless it's a journey that takes months after your death I'm thinking Balefire shouldn't really make all that much difference.


Umm no, DO keeps your soul in his grasp, maybe inside the bore while waiting for a body to be secured. But the initial capture of the soul has to happen quickly. However, once the DO has your soul in his grasp, he can keep it from escaping to join the pattern.

So to continue my example. If he captured you in those 2 minutes, he could then keep your soul in his hand for years if he wanted to, he would not need to find a body in the remaining 3 minutes. But if he missed that 5 minute window, nothing could be done.
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1583 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 984 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 979 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1007 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 909 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 822 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 940 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 853 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 821 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 775 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 763 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 731 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 758 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 740 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 898 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 806 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 865 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 746 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 842 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 779 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 772 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 765 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1254 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 876 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 889 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 803 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 916 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 725 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 765 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 406 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 793 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 795 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 762 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 443 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 740 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 376 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 751 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 727 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 859 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 777 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 813 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 811 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 795 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 793 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 816 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 773 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 752 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 727 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 823 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 712 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 803 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 782 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 794 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 808 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 749 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 822 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 754 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 695 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 873 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 807 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 782 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 742 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 798 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 706 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 731 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 883 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 729 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 735 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 813 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 755 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 786 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 867 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 735 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 738 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 803 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 741 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 887 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 840 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 794 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 828 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 723 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 830 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 769 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 817 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 738 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 813 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 973 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1082 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 706 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 751 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 819 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 732 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1029 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 770 Views
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