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Re: No way. Shishka Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM
1) Objects don't have threads in the Pattern, so destroying the angreal doesn't undo anything, it just destroys the angreal.


This seems to be a bone of contention. See Datakim's post above, for evidence to the contrary.

2) Why would Graendal ever take it off? It's a ring, she can wear it 24/10, and I would be very surprised if she didn't.


That's a good point. If it were a bulky statue or something, you could see her putting it down. But a ring, in a situation where she would presumably have been more cautious/alert than normal? It does seem unlikely.

Graendal is dead. I actually didn't get a huge letdown over her death. I can't really think of any other way for Rand to get rid of her. She was smarter than him, and she was never going to stand and fight him. He beat her.


I don't have a problem with Graendal's death in this manner, either. I was just trying to think of a plausible way she may still be alive. But, all the feedback I'm getting is making me think that my "plausible" way is not so "plausible" after all. :)
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Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 05:44:12 PM 2375 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) randfandom - 05/01/2010 06:46:19 PM 1128 Views
Re: Graendal's Fate (Alive or Dead?) Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:15:41 PM 993 Views
Nynaeve's boat... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:23:57 PM 960 Views
Balefire is REALLY confusing. Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:41:05 PM 844 Views
Good point ... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:52:04 PM 814 Views
I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 08:45:52 PM 4545 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Shishka - 05/01/2010 09:23:06 PM 797 Views
Re: I'm somewhat surprised objects have threads. Fanatic-Templar - 05/01/2010 10:30:42 PM 817 Views
Wasn't there a quote somewhere BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:05:32 AM 736 Views
Probably a bit of retconning there by Brandon Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:34:55 PM 766 Views
BS is definitely wrong here BlackAdder - 06/01/2010 02:01:23 AM 785 Views
Re: BS is definitely wrong here Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:36:06 PM 758 Views
There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 07:00:31 PM 801 Views
Re: There is another way... Shishka - 05/01/2010 07:35:05 PM 839 Views
Re: There is another way... fionwe1987 - 05/01/2010 11:05:26 PM 754 Views
Nope randfandom - 06/01/2010 04:36:56 AM 836 Views
USe Occam's Razor yourself... fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:53:22 AM 953 Views
and why didn't she invert any of the weaves? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 05:55:54 AM 781 Views
Exactly! *NM* fionwe1987 - 06/01/2010 05:27:52 PM 413 Views
Maybe you cannot invert compulsion? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:56:35 PM 805 Views
so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? seems a little darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:31:09 PM 718 Views
Re: so it's the one and only thing we've seen that can't be inverted? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:02:00 AM 664 Views
I am inclined to agree with Datakim here. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 02:04:42 AM 981 Views
Why aren't inverted weaves standard practice? BlackAdder - 07/01/2010 01:24:09 AM 825 Views
Balefire is so confusing Datakim - 05/01/2010 07:03:29 PM 837 Views
Re: Balefire is so confusing Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:52:57 PM 813 Views
She's dead as a bloody doornail. Or whatever that saying is... *NM* lilltempest - 05/01/2010 07:20:36 PM 407 Views
Clearly dead Etzel - 05/01/2010 07:29:11 PM 982 Views
Re: Clearly dead Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:21:16 PM 851 Views
Re: Clearly dead Datakim - 05/01/2010 08:41:15 PM 800 Views
I think... Etzel - 05/01/2010 09:05:48 PM 808 Views
No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 07:31:12 PM 880 Views
Re: No way. Shishka - 05/01/2010 08:31:54 PM 749 Views
Re: No way. Gher - 05/01/2010 10:16:03 PM 787 Views
Graendal's as dead as BS/RJ makes her. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 06/01/2010 02:40:46 AM 397 Views
She's dead as dead gets. everynametaken - 06/01/2010 01:43:34 AM 727 Views
Dead is my bet Sidious - 06/01/2010 11:48:46 AM 750 Views
She's dead *NM* Simon - 06/01/2010 11:58:34 AM 378 Views
Dead. *NM* AgentOrange - 06/01/2010 03:58:19 PM 381 Views
I think she's alive. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:12:50 PM 763 Views
Compulsion is rather useless isn't it? Syraelle - 06/01/2010 07:44:42 PM 848 Views
It may take an exceptional Delver/Healer Gher - 06/01/2010 08:49:37 PM 817 Views
perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:06:49 PM 758 Views
Re: perhaps, but still I have a hard time believing Graendal didn't invert the weaves! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:42:17 PM 792 Views
What if.. Tweak - 06/01/2010 10:41:44 PM 725 Views
I'll roll my eyes, and snort if she's alive Wotmaniac Reborn - 08/01/2010 04:21:20 AM 741 Views
Well... Heiko - 10/01/2010 03:24:39 AM 953 Views
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