When Verin talks to Egwene about the oaths to the DO, she points out that it is impossible to betray him until the hour of death. I wonder about the implications of this statement concerning all the actions that Verin has taken in the series.
- Making Rand fulfill his destiny at Falme.
- Giving Egwene the dream terangreal (mentioned by herself)
- Helping the 2 rivers fighting trollocs
- Using compulsion on the captured WT AS to make them obey Rand
- Making sure Rand accepts Cadsuane as advisor
- Helping Mat reaching Caemlyn quickly (when there is a standing order that he should be killed though she might not know of that order)
I wonder how many of these actions were helping the DO? For example, with hindsight I suspect that Verin actively caused the failure of the Salidar AS delegation with rand due to the 'let the lord of chaos rule' order. (this does not exclude that she personally thought it good for him to be free of AS strings)
And if they were not all serving the DO how did she manage to get round her oaths? there is even something more complex to this question: Verin has seen her possible futures in tGH when rand used the portal stones. So she knows about the consequences of her actions and cannot claim uncertainty/ignorance when she performs an action that helps the light. Which would suggest that all her actions until her final betrayal helped the DO.
Any ideas/thoughts?
- Making Rand fulfill his destiny at Falme.
- Giving Egwene the dream terangreal (mentioned by herself)
- Helping the 2 rivers fighting trollocs
- Using compulsion on the captured WT AS to make them obey Rand
- Making sure Rand accepts Cadsuane as advisor
- Helping Mat reaching Caemlyn quickly (when there is a standing order that he should be killed though she might not know of that order)
I wonder how many of these actions were helping the DO? For example, with hindsight I suspect that Verin actively caused the failure of the Salidar AS delegation with rand due to the 'let the lord of chaos rule' order. (this does not exclude that she personally thought it good for him to be free of AS strings)
And if they were not all serving the DO how did she manage to get round her oaths? there is even something more complex to this question: Verin has seen her possible futures in tGH when rand used the portal stones. So she knows about the consequences of her actions and cannot claim uncertainty/ignorance when she performs an action that helps the light. Which would suggest that all her actions until her final betrayal helped the DO.
Any ideas/thoughts?
The Aes Sedai culture is all about manipulating their oaths. Since the minute they swear the Three Oaths the Aes Sedai begin practicing to get around their oaths. Look at the first oath "to speak no word that is not true", like every WOT reader I parse everything an Aes Sedai utters to figure out how the Aes Sedai can get around what she appears to have said.
An intelligent Verin who is adept at the manipulating thought process I am sure could manipulate the DO oaths to her advantage.
Verin's actions in the series
04/01/2010 12:57:38 PM
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04/01/2010 01:59:38 PM
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Re: Verin's actions in the series
04/01/2010 11:12:51 PM
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I think none of them. She was never willingly of the Black and her Light motives were more likely
04/01/2010 11:45:21 PM
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You can disobey any DarkFriend/Forsaken. Selfishness is first. After the DO. So ....
05/01/2010 12:32:51 AM
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