Over and over I've said it's obvious that Moghedien is the stronger of them, it's been made very clear throughout the series and I don't refute that.
Stop backtracking. Your own list says that Moghedien lies on 375 strength and Egwene on 350. That's the same gap you give to Aes Sedai lower down e.g. the difference between Sheriam and Verin. That is a small gap and easily overcome in a duel.
What I've also said is that even massive strength deficits can be overcome by skilled opponents and that this quote is less about Egwene worrying over something she can't chang (i.e. being weaker than Moghedien) and more about the bigger issue, which is Moghediens overwhelming advantage in skill.
Then once again, why does she think that Nynaeve could perform this feat? By your own admission then you assume that Egwene thinks that Nynaeve is skilled enough to defeat Moghedien, which is not backed up by the text. Nynaeve has recurrently been called an unskilled channeler with an amazing ability with Healing.
I also think Nynaeve would never have beaten Moghedien in a duel if she hadn't caught her by surprise and essentially made the duel an arm wrestling match. At that point in the series Nynaeve wasn't even as skilled as Alivia, and we saw what happened with Cyndane.
Which is your own PoV that cannot be defended. Nynaeve defeated Moghedien head on, and later again in TAR. Nynaeve herself says that she's matching the Forsaken strength for strength. Just because it became an arm-wrestling match doesn't detract from the strength debate. In that case, Rand's duels against Rahvin and Sammael were equally flawed.
I find your continued point of view that everything OP related is directly related to how strong someone is rather blind.
Huh. You cling to the Cyndane-Alivia battle which is a comparison between arguably the world's most skilled woman vs a woman who can't even weave an umbrella, and use it as your standard in channeler dueling. Is Verin more skilled than Graendal? Is Demandred less skilled than Flinn? Is Daigian more skilled than Aran'gar? You continuously ignore the fact that the Forsaken are the most powerful channelers from their Age, and that they've only been matched by equally powerful channelers from the modern Age, channelers with angreal/sa'angreal or a team effort. If strength is not relevant then let's see Egwene, the most skilled channeler we know of, take on Cyndane or Demandred. Her own opinion doesn't sanction that, for crying out loud.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 04/01/2010 at 03:40:56 PM
One Power strength - critical analysis of previous posts and some further ideas
03/01/2010 07:59:24 AM
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I support your view, with maybe a few comments to add...
03/01/2010 02:58:05 PM
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where is this phantom quote of Egwene "not standing a chance"
03/01/2010 05:20:20 PM
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Here's the real quote
03/01/2010 05:38:59 PM
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Well that quote perfectly illustrates the skewed way in which you interpret the evidence...
03/01/2010 06:18:22 PM
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I also think the quote is specific
03/01/2010 06:34:38 PM
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Skill not Strength is the key that and the potential that another FS was with her
03/01/2010 06:51:46 PM
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Bah
03/01/2010 07:13:01 PM
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Who's arguing that?
03/01/2010 07:34:21 PM
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What ARE you arguing?
03/01/2010 07:43:06 PM
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That there is far more to strength in her quote!
03/01/2010 08:05:20 PM
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Re: That there is far more to strength in her quote!
04/01/2010 09:40:05 AM
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and where do I ever say Elayne is only a small step below Moghedien?
04/01/2010 03:08:37 PM
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You more than imply it with your own list
04/01/2010 03:39:06 PM
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and you are fixated on simple strength to the exclusion of everything else
04/01/2010 05:05:54 PM
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Re: and you are fixated on simple strength to the exclusion of everything else
04/01/2010 06:46:45 PM
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Tiny Unimportant Objection to "Bell Curve" Point
03/01/2010 03:09:55 PM
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Re: Tiny Unimportant Objection to "Bell Curve" Point
03/01/2010 04:39:25 PM
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I've got a slightly revised opinion than my last post
03/01/2010 05:16:39 PM
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Re: I've got a slightly revised opinion than my last post
03/01/2010 06:31:09 PM
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It's actually not that complicated ... simple math actually
03/01/2010 07:08:52 PM
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Yes, but to think that RJ put that much effort into it is improbable
03/01/2010 07:19:13 PM
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I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
03/01/2010 07:56:17 PM
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Re: I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
04/01/2010 09:50:38 AM
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Re: I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
04/01/2010 03:26:10 PM
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Re: I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
04/01/2010 03:52:19 PM
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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth
04/01/2010 05:09:15 PM
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Dude
04/01/2010 06:21:28 PM
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Dude, please go back to Fionwe's post
04/01/2010 06:35:03 PM
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A reply...
03/01/2010 06:02:33 PM
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The Tower sample is skewed allright, but to the upper side of the strength range...
03/01/2010 06:36:45 PM
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Re: A reply...
03/01/2010 07:09:55 PM
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I think distance is related to Strength
03/01/2010 07:21:46 PM
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amusing side note
04/01/2010 05:22:39 AM
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Which is exactly what I envisage the AOL distribution to have looked like...
04/01/2010 07:03:51 AM
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Re: Which is exactly what I envisage the AOL distribution to have looked like...
04/01/2010 03:29:47 PM
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It may sound silly, but did you look at One Power values in the Wheel of Time CCG?
05/01/2010 12:56:41 AM
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Re: It may sound silly, but did you look at One Power values in the Wheel of Time CCG?
05/01/2010 07:33:21 AM
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