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Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM
You certainly have the freedom to make a supposition that it was, but we have no evidence at all that the mark was made with either Power.

It can simply be a case of Shaidar Haran being able to manipulate time/space in a way further developed than most Myrdraal.

After all, only channelers can access the True Power, and we've seen no evidence that the Dark One can make it available to Shadowspawn. The best evidence we have is that Shaidar Haran has physical limitations regarding what it can touch and how - Elza was doing most of the actual moving in TGS. If SH had access to the TP, it could have 1) removed the Compulsion in Elza's mind itself or 2) moved objects/people physically with the TP.

Whatever SH can do, it does not seem to be related to the One Power or the True Power in a readily apparent way.
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Fain's Myrddraal Etzel - 28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM 1771 Views
Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM* Lordling - 28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM 408 Views
except, of course, for Shaidar Haran *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 03:12:17 PM 417 Views
But what was the purpose then? Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM 752 Views
To show the relationship between Fain and DO Bonden - 28/12/2009 03:52:59 PM 704 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:02:42 PM 710 Views
Re: Maybe... Bonden - 29/12/2009 03:58:57 AM 963 Views
Re: Fain's Myrddraal RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM 739 Views
Slayer also hunts Rand Etzel - 28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM 748 Views
I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM 659 Views
The explanations Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM 929 Views
Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM 847 Views
Your reaction would be similar to BS's then Etzel - 28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM 1792 Views
I don't really have a strong opinion on which suspect did it darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:03:07 PM 662 Views
Well... Etzel - 28/12/2009 06:42:16 PM 728 Views
Indeed *NM* darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 06:55:52 PM 366 Views
Re: The explanations RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM 602 Views
The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM 679 Views
Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM 768 Views
The reason is... Etzel - 29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM 748 Views
The reasoning is very weak. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM 731 Views
If you mean... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM 809 Views
A few points darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM 670 Views
You are wrong... Etzel - 29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM 663 Views
Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM 755 Views
Key word - "possibly" RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM 662 Views
As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM 642 Views
Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear. darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 598 Views
Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad. Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM 642 Views
I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts" darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM 568 Views
Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM 594 Views
I think you are stretching the reality a bit darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM 658 Views
You confuse it a bit... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM 718 Views
I think you've got it backwards darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM 616 Views
However... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM 658 Views
I wasn't arguing that point darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM 879 Views
Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM 604 Views
clearly they do since people are discussing it! darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:37:00 PM 592 Views
Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM 657 Views
Sorry, but that is utter nonsense Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM 743 Views
You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 707 Views
Simply read the books and what the authors said... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM 656 Views
Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM 618 Views
Ok, then we play dumb, if you like... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM 742 Views
Because the Dark One is not merely a super channeler. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:21:21 PM 747 Views
Well, I disagree of course... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:36:19 PM 866 Views
You are mistaken on quite a few counts. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM 819 Views
Actually... Etzel - 29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM 730 Views
BWB says... darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM 961 Views
Exactly. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:12:30 PM 336 Views
Well... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM 766 Views
Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM 668 Views
No... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM 853 Views
Re: No... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM 837 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM 600 Views
So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM 628 Views
Again... Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM 572 Views
I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM 658 Views
Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:16:50 PM 540 Views
Re: Then another Forsaken, e.g. Sammael.. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 09:21:23 PM 630 Views
She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM* darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM 346 Views
Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh* Etzel - 29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM 548 Views
Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it? darius_sedai - 29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM 744 Views
I don't say... Etzel - 30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM 802 Views
Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC darius_sedai - 30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM 718 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM 634 Views
It becomes clear... Etzel - 29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM 565 Views
Basically, you think Slayer killed him. I do not. Nor do I care. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 07:04:20 PM 547 Views
Fair enough. *NM* Etzel - 29/12/2009 07:17:22 PM 398 Views
Re: Slayer also hunts Rand RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM 814 Views
As said... Etzel - 28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM 645 Views
Re: As said... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM 640 Views
It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman... Etzel - 28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM 623 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 28/12/2009 09:45:08 PM 667 Views
Re: makes you wonder RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2009 10:16:57 PM 699 Views
I think... Etzel - 29/12/2009 12:03:41 PM 617 Views
Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM* aldapelan - 29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM 398 Views
It is quite obvious that it was Mistress Laras. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/12/2009 03:35:36 PM 366 Views
Intuitively, even. *NM* Gher - 29/12/2009 06:03:13 PM 361 Views
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