Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before!
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM
Even the creator of the Myrddraal had no idea how/why/what their powers were! And we don't have any evidence at all of the shadowspawn were created using the TP! In fact given the reluctance of the Forsaken to use the TP except at great need I find it far more likely that Aginor used the OP to create them.
For example RJ said once: "The gholam - singular and plural are the same -were created, not bred. Supposedly their creation involved making them so that they would be obedient to the Chosen, whoever they might be at any given time. This was an attempt at copying something that had turned up in Myrddraal, which seem incapable of disobeying one of the Chosen, possibly because of the use of the True Power in creation of the Trollocs , the parent stock of the Myrddraal. Even Aginor, who created the Trollocs, and thus indirectly the Myrddraal, was uncertain about the actual cause."
That fits with Alviarin's TP mark from SH.
And it only makes sense that at least some of the special Shadowspawn abilities also stem from the TP, like obviously Grey Men, Fain and Slayer were changed by the TP, not the OP.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Fain's Myrddraal
28/12/2009 01:45:58 PM
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Nope, Myrddraal have been nothing but cannon fodder since book four *NM*
28/12/2009 03:01:01 PM
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But what was the purpose then?
28/12/2009 03:43:01 PM
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Re: Fain's Myrddraal
28/12/2009 03:19:37 PM
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Slayer also hunts Rand
28/12/2009 03:57:11 PM
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I think it's possible that Slayer could have killed Asmo
28/12/2009 04:35:57 PM
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The explanations
28/12/2009 05:06:02 PM
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Perhaps, I still don't buy it, but if that's the way it turns out I won't be shocked
28/12/2009 05:20:06 PM
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Your reaction would be similar to BS's then
28/12/2009 05:57:44 PM
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Re: The explanations
28/12/2009 08:01:19 PM
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The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS...
28/12/2009 08:13:07 PM
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Re: The case for Graendal was already weak before TGS...
28/12/2009 10:19:24 PM
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The reason is...
29/12/2009 11:58:24 AM
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The reasoning is very weak.
29/12/2009 03:34:19 PM
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If you mean...
29/12/2009 04:01:25 PM
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A few points
29/12/2009 04:14:12 PM
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You are wrong...
29/12/2009 04:25:09 PM
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Thanks for the quote .. obviously hadn't heard that one before!
29/12/2009 04:31:37 PM
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Key word - "possibly"
29/12/2009 04:38:46 PM
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As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear.
29/12/2009 05:06:47 PM
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Re: As said, if you just compare it to Alviarin's mark, it's clear.
29/12/2009 06:08:09 PM
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Well, it protects you of Shadowspawn, not that bad.
29/12/2009 06:12:04 PM
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I don't think what happened to Fain or Slayer are "gifts"
29/12/2009 06:26:15 PM
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Slayer calls it "gifts" in his PoV
29/12/2009 06:37:49 PM
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I think you are stretching the reality a bit
29/12/2009 06:42:10 PM
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You confuse it a bit...
29/12/2009 06:57:07 PM
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I think you've got it backwards
29/12/2009 07:12:02 PM
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However...
29/12/2009 07:16:08 PM
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I wasn't arguing that point
29/12/2009 08:13:25 PM
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Some things don't have to be spelled out, if they are that clear... *NM*
29/12/2009 08:18:05 PM
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Yes; it is not readily apparant that the mark was made with the TP.
29/12/2009 06:12:07 PM
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Sorry, but that is utter nonsense
29/12/2009 06:24:54 PM
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You are incorrect; I'm actually thinking that you only skimmed certain sections!
29/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
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Simply read the books and what the authors said...
29/12/2009 06:55:42 PM
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Sorry, I think you have an opinion and read everything to support it in this case.
29/12/2009 07:02:42 PM
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Ok, then we play dumb, if you like...
29/12/2009 07:14:58 PM
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You are mistaken on quite a few counts.
29/12/2009 04:37:51 PM
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Actually...
29/12/2009 05:04:54 PM
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BWB says...
29/12/2009 05:48:40 PM
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Well...
29/12/2009 06:18:08 PM
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Just pointing out that your comment about Lanfear and Moggy not being assassins
29/12/2009 06:37:21 PM
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No...
29/12/2009 06:47:07 PM
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Re: No...
29/12/2009 07:00:20 PM
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Again...
29/12/2009 07:10:12 PM
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So you dismiss the actual assassinations the Forsaken have performed on-screen?
29/12/2009 07:26:55 PM
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Again...
29/12/2009 07:47:57 PM
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I think any Forsaken is capable of doing it.
29/12/2009 08:05:10 PM
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She kidnapped the Sharan's ... who's to say she hasn't killed others? *NM*
29/12/2009 08:17:28 PM
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Yeah, after TFoH! We are looking for clues before LoC, guys! *sigh*
29/12/2009 08:31:13 PM
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Where did I say this was a clue to her doing it?
29/12/2009 09:58:29 PM
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I don't say...
30/12/2009 12:08:27 PM
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Most of what you are talking about with Slayer is discoverd after LoC
30/12/2009 02:36:18 PM
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Re: Well...
29/12/2009 06:41:29 PM
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It becomes clear...
29/12/2009 06:59:03 PM
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Re: Slayer also hunts Rand
28/12/2009 04:39:36 PM
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As said...
28/12/2009 04:54:07 PM
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Re: As said...
28/12/2009 07:49:22 PM
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It's rather the TP, which makes Slayer inhuman...
28/12/2009 08:21:20 PM
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Fain's Myrddraal killed asmo LOL *NM*
29/12/2009 05:26:22 AM
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