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Re: The Nazi's did have that weapon. tjacknorris Send a noteboard - 22/12/2009 06:54:05 PM
Has anyone asked BS/RJ WHY Callandor lacks the safety buffer? According to The Guide LTT used this sword as a weapon against Shadow. According to some earlier WoT books the 'urban myth' among some knowledgable Aes Sedai was that it wasn't finished. This sounds a bit..... vague. If they manage to finish the Choedan Kal at the end of the war of the shadow, surely they would have been able to finish Callandor before during earlier stages of the war??

Please dont reply with: But maybe it was almost finished and then dreadlords attacked and disrupted the final tuning process etc or some other BS (BS doesn't mean Brandon Sanderson here btw ) Do we have any real clues? Is it missing a piece or something? Ring of the Tamyrlin?? ( sorry, that last one was really lame)


According to RJ angreal and sa'angreal were being mass produced during the War of Power much like tanks, airplanes and other much needed equipment were being mass produced during WW2. But as the War grew longer, the industrial capacity of the world was diminshed as society started disintegrating. As mentioned in other quotes, by the last years of the War armies had reverted from using shocklances to using sword and bows and arrows, simply because the capacity to maintain a technological infrastructure base was diminshed and eventually virtually destroyed.

Now, as far as Callandor was concerned, RJ said that due to the above situation and the speed at which these angreal and sa'angreal were being manufactured by necessity, the rate of technical faults in completed products increased. And Callandor was one such case. So disappointingly, it wasn't a special case, or the result of deliberate sabotage or interference by the Shadow. It was simply a faulty product on the production line. One of many where something went wrong.

And yes, my first thought when I read that was: "How the hell did they build the Choedan Kal, right at the end of the War, if something of that strength could not have been developed at the height of their technological capability.

But I guess it is similar to the Atom Bomb. The Manhatten Project, which was completed close to the end of World War 2. And Germany were only a few years from developing their own Bomb, despite the destruction of much of their infrastructure. And of course, it meets RJ's plot requirements, just like so many other unlikely occurrences in this series.


So, lets compare this to WW2. That would be similar to General Rommel of Germany or some other highranking fellow of the allies being equipped with a very powerful gun which has a flaw making it explode in their face if they hold down the trigger for too long. If I were LTT ( more or less world president), I would have used another weapon 'cause I believe that he would have had access to others. Nice touch RJ!!


The WW2 comparison is a good one, the Nazis did have just such a weapon that was being mass produced towards the end of the war with just such flaws. The V2 Rocket was remarkable technology having the ability to bomb England and Soviet targets from far away. These were manufactured late in the war but never had a very significant impact since they a good portion were not accurate and they came too late to stop the Allied Victory.


Well, Rommel didn't rely on having a V2 rocket in his backpack to defend himself from / attack his enemies.
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