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The death of Cadsuane Datakim Send a noteboard - 20/12/2009 08:37:23 PM
I was thinking. How long has Cadsuane been wearing those ter'angreal of hers. They give her a big and somewhat "unfair" advantage over all male channelers. Not only do they allow her to know whenever someone has embraced the power, but another of her toys also disrupts attacks the way Mat's amulet does. I wonder if this is why she dared to be so rude and aggressive to Rand. She knew that her ter'angreal would protect her if Rand lost it and attacked her. We know she has faced more men who can channel than any other AS, whats one more.

Now I was wondering how that would affect her. I mean for centuries she has had the safety net of the ter'angreal. She knows that any direct attack sent against her will fizzle and she only needs to worry about indirect attacks. I expect this is partly the reason why she was so good against male channelers. Whenever they attacked her, she did not have to waste energy defending herself, instead she simply let the ter'angreal do that for her while she focused all her efforts on defeating her opponent.

It makes a certain amount of sense that after a long time of having the ter'angreal, she might well have gotten so used to its presence that she is subconsciously relying on it to defend herself. This made me wonder what would happen if for some reason Cadsuane was confronted by Moridin.

Moridin wields the True Power and as such would be essentially immune to all of Cadsuane's gadgets. Any attack directed at Cadsuane, even a simple fireball would without a doubt ignore her ter'angreal entirely. Now normal channelers such as Rand probably would be ready with defensive weaves and such to counter Moridin's attacks, but Cadsuane would only see a man channeling at her. Is it possible that her long dependence on her protective ornaments will mean that rather than trying to shield herself with the OP, she will just rely on the protection of her Ter'angreal. Protection that will not work.

I speculate that Moridin and Cadsuane will meet, and Cadsuane, not knowing about the existence of the True Power will be overconfident and believe that she is protected like always before, as such she will die quickly and easily without offering any resistance when Moridin's attack on her will unexpectedly not be countered by her ornaments.
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