Re: All that will do is take the best fighters out of action.
Kieran Send a noteboard - 19/12/2009 06:10:26 PM
Another huge advantage will be that Aes Sedai have begun bonding Asha'man, perhaps not many but still enough to turn the tide.
I'd rather have the Asha'man running free to fight as they have been trained, than contributing their strength to an Aes Sedai shackled by the Three Oaths and an ingrained reluctance to do anything useful with the Power.
Look at what happened at the Cleansing, the one time we have seen Asha'man and Aes Sedai cooperating like that - the Aes Sedai screwed the pooch hard. The best showing was by the circle led by an Asha'man, which thwarted and drove off Demandred, and Alivia who faced off with Cyndane. Verin got one of her people killed by trying to capture Graendal instead of kill her, which sacrificed the little initiative she had (no way a Forsaken lets a linked circle strike her first unless they caught her by surprise). Big surprise, the Brown thinks of the potential for gaining knowledge, rather than DOING HER JOB which is to protect the single most important feat of channeling since LTT sealed the Bore. We also see Daigian, whom Cadsuane stupidly puts in command of a circle because she respects her abstract intelligence, get her warder killed (and fittingly this causes her to get killed later in Semirhage's escape) because she also sacrificed initiative by not drawing full on the Power. If Eben had not been in a link, he would have been able to strike at Aran'gar with the Power, rather than physically, and stood a better chance of A. surviving and B. hurting her. Daigian was not even drawing on more of his strength than was absolutely necessary to maintain the link. You can bet that Eben (or any Asha'man) would have been holding all of saidin he could if he was out patrolling on the off-chance of spotting a Forsaken! Finally, we have Merise who passed control of the circle to a visibly unstable, and as it turned out, Darkfriend, rather than shoulder the distasteful burden of channeling the flows of saidin, which would have been the greater part of their circle. She abandoned her responsibility because it was uncomfortable. Of course it turned out for the better, as Elza knew (why else do you think she was ready to beg for cotnrol - she knew she would be better able to defend Rand without the Three Oaths impeding her), but her for of loyalty to Rand could as easily have mandated she take him prisoner and carry him off to Shayol Ghul to turned to the Great Lord by a circle of 13 and Myrdraal, be made Chosen and granted immortality! Lucky for the world, Elza is an Aes Sedai and thus an idiot, or Merise could have lost the entire fight by giving up the job Cadsuane entrusted her with. She trusted Merise most among all her followers, according to Cadsuane herself, and if anyone had any doubts about that, her giving Callandor to Merise would have clearly established that. But Merise chickens out.
All in all, placing Asha'man under the command of Aes Sedai, or counting on Aes Sedai in a stand-up fight is a BAD idea.
Of course you assume that the Aes Sedai would have control of the circles...think if the Asha'man had a circle to control and destroy with :p
Learning traveling will help the Seanchan, but the AS still have the advantage.
17/12/2009 01:13:32 AM
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Re: Learning traveling will help the Seanchan, but the AS still have the advantage.
17/12/2009 01:39:32 AM
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Linking provides another benefit.
17/12/2009 02:02:05 AM
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Wow, if that happens, I will be her biggest fan *NM*
17/12/2009 02:10:01 AM
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Me too! Destroying the White Tower would make even me like Egwene. *NM*
17/12/2009 11:36:03 AM
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Ideally, both would be destroyed! Along with the rest of Randland. Muahahahahaha!!
18/12/2009 12:40:55 AM
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What an utterly stupid idea.
17/12/2009 11:35:24 AM
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Your facts are incorrect.
17/12/2009 02:41:42 PM
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They were losing at Dumai's Wells. That's why they had to tie off Rand's shield
17/12/2009 08:18:32 PM
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The army of Night, fighting against the Seanchan Empire, surely have linked channelers
18/12/2009 04:34:52 AM
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Is that the Superpower they're looking for all along? *NM*
17/12/2009 02:02:25 AM
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No, the superpower is the "atomic bomb-like" weapon at the Kin's farm that melted sand.
17/12/2009 03:10:01 AM
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another linking advantage
17/12/2009 02:10:56 AM
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All that will do is take the best fighters out of action.
17/12/2009 11:55:55 AM
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I have to agree with Cannoli on this, but with a twist.
17/12/2009 02:46:03 PM
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Why mace of air?
17/12/2009 05:58:32 PM
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I can't compete with deathgates to outer space, but damane can be rehabilitated.
17/12/2009 08:10:17 PM
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So can soldiers. Lots of Taraboners, Altarans, etc in Seanchan army.
17/12/2009 10:08:32 PM
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Oh, yes. Because damane NEVER fight soldiers, and would thus ignore them.
17/12/2009 09:00:41 PM
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Re: All that will do is take the best fighters out of action.
19/12/2009 06:10:26 PM
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Do you really think the Aes Sedai would let them control the circles if they had a say?
21/12/2009 08:23:46 PM
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Re: Do you really think the Aes Sedai would let them control the circles if they had a say?
22/12/2009 02:04:11 AM
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Why did you post this?
17/12/2009 09:35:09 AM
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What post are you talking about?
17/12/2009 04:57:14 PM
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thanks for the credit... PS I'm a guy *NM*
18/12/2009 12:10:56 AM
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Ooops
18/12/2009 12:48:22 AM
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I'm totally teasing you ... I added the "sedai" to be snarky
18/12/2009 12:55:51 AM
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Yeah, I don't get that: Fantasy gender-nuetral honorific, plus Real World male name = female?
18/12/2009 05:35:17 AM
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Asha'man can' link either and they didn't have a problem moving an army
17/12/2009 08:16:48 PM
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Rand's campaign lasted more than a week. The AS could move the entire army in 5 minutes.
17/12/2009 08:28:40 PM
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