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So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? Shannow Send a noteboard - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM
What I'm saying is that Moiraine, a strong Aes Sedai, may not be above average for female channelers as a whole. She may very well be on the upward curve of the bell rather than near the top. A key point to consider is that before her time, there were three Aes Sedai near Cadsuane's strength level, and a few generations before that, we have to assume that there were more powerful Sisters above Cadsuane's level who died before she was born. Thus the White Tower truly is in a decline - perhaps at one point, when Aes Sedai were more respected and less political, it represented a diverse range of strengths, but it seems that as the years wore on and fewer girls sought out the Tower, they dropped below the female average.

I would say that Egwene, Elayne and Aviendha are right at the point where above average channelers start merging into stronger channelers but not much further beyond it - they are strong enough to always be considered powerful, but not exceptionally strong enough to be in the same class as the Forsaken.


I find it strange that out of 1000 Aes Sedai in the Tower, not a single one happened to be of average strength before the wondergirls arrived. HOWEVER, I am happy to accept that, because it proves my point that there is a big gap between Lanfear and modern Aes Sedai.

And depending on how far you take it, it will even suggest that Egwene is of average strength, if the Bell Curve refers to Age of Legends standards. In other words, Egwene is half as strong as Lanfear, and a strong Aes Sedai is 25% as strong as Lanfear. Which is perfectly consistent with the text, and makes the Bell Curve work perfectly as well.

The only strange part is that every single modern Aes Sedai is below average strength, but since we are using the same Bell Curve that they used in the Age of Legends, I am perfectly happy with that. It fits with the Forsaken's contempt at women who are so weak that they "should not be let outside without a keeper."
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The One Power Bell Curve: Proof that it is not centered on 50% of the strongest channeler's strength - 18/12/2009 08:37:55 AM 1315 Views
I always thought the curve was one sided - 18/12/2009 01:17:32 PM 724 Views
I would say that your sample is flawed. - 18/12/2009 05:02:02 PM 805 Views
well said *NM* - 18/12/2009 05:12:40 PM 378 Views
It doesn't matter... - 18/12/2009 10:02:38 PM 658 Views
But, it sort of does. - 18/12/2009 10:43:08 PM 707 Views
So you're saying that no modern Aes Sedai are even of average strength? - 18/12/2009 10:51:01 PM 785 Views
Are you sure it's the same bell curve from the AoL? - 18/12/2009 11:11:19 PM 749 Views
The Tower is restricted to the middle... - 18/12/2009 05:35:03 PM 872 Views
Two things... - 18/12/2009 09:28:25 PM 718 Views
The culling theory... - 18/12/2009 09:36:34 PM 647 Views
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Yes, but Aes Sedai take it to a new level... - 18/12/2009 09:48:59 PM 834 Views
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Several more things... - 18/12/2009 11:26:19 PM 815 Views
You don't understand your own model... - 18/12/2009 11:38:05 PM 823 Views
So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? - 19/12/2009 06:03:24 PM 732 Views
Re: So RJ was wrong about Bell Curve distribution? - 19/12/2009 06:10:52 PM 689 Views
Its simple really... - 19/12/2009 06:15:23 PM 703 Views
Age-Related Sample Bias - 18/12/2009 06:41:03 PM 674 Views
A thought that occured to me, and I'd like your opinion... - 18/12/2009 07:38:29 PM 670 Views
Well Sharina isn't a sparker and she's the strongest AS - 18/12/2009 07:57:17 PM 676 Views
Yes... - 18/12/2009 08:01:57 PM 766 Views
Is it just my bad memory or is one of the wondergirls not a sparker? - 18/12/2009 10:12:59 PM 662 Views
I think it's just a bad memory... - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 656 Views
Easier sulution, and real example. - 18/12/2009 10:03:20 PM 710 Views
And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... - 18/12/2009 10:08:40 PM 684 Views
Re: And that is indeed the solution I feel most comfortable with... - 19/12/2009 11:39:31 AM 923 Views
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*facepalm* - 18/12/2009 10:13:16 PM 712 Views
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Dude, Seriously? - 18/12/2009 10:19:25 PM 708 Views
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It does to RJ - 20/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 755 Views
Yes, "Bell Curve" does not mean Gausian. Or normal distribution. - 19/12/2009 11:24:11 PM 644 Views
That's because outliers in IQ tests are excluded form the curve. *NM* - 18/12/2009 11:31:23 PM 399 Views
Really?!?! then what is the definition of a IQ of 200? - 19/12/2009 11:28:18 PM 983 Views
You can have IQ's above that... - 20/12/2009 05:09:44 AM 693 Views
I said that in the other post and was half torn to pieces *NM* - 19/12/2009 11:38:25 AM 348 Views
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I like this idea - 20/12/2009 04:01:28 PM 835 Views
Accidental Post *NM* - 20/12/2009 07:11:09 PM 395 Views
Mathmatically this is very close to the system I proposed in another thread - 27/12/2009 01:23:51 AM 634 Views
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