You make good points about the damane not being able to shield linked AS.
You probably recall the scene in KoD where the seafolk windfinders link to take Birgitte outside the walls of Caemlyn to rescue Elayne. In that scene, the black ajah sisters (there are something like 7 or 8 of them) are using the one power. The seafolk are linked. I specifically remember the quote saying that it was not an even fight because the seafolk were linked. In other words, NONE of the black ajah, individually, could stop the windfinders from shielding herself.
So I agree with you that linking gives the AS a huge advantage. While EVERY shield the damane throw at a linked group of AS will fail, EVERY shield the AS use against the damane will succeed. It is like when the 13 sisters kidnap Rand in LoC. Rand was powerless to stop them. The AS should go on the offensive and simply gate into Ebou Dar with a hundred groups of 13 women linked, and shield every last damane they see, and capture/execute all the sul'dam. The AS could easily win if they attack now.
The Seanchan dealt a blow to the AS, but I'd like to see the AS fight back with at least a semblance of tactical flare. Egwene has over 2000 channelers at the tower now. She should use them.
She won't do this because she is not a complete and total moron. See, the VAST MAJORITY of enemies whom damane face are NOT channelers and NOT susceptible to shields. Logic would therefore suggest that since the Seanchan sul'dam and damane are USED to facing people whom they cannot shield, they have devised other methods of dealing with them. Lightning bolts. Fireballs. Crap like that. Your suggestion would result in 2000 dead Aes Sedai right quick. The ability to link did not save them from the Shaido Wise Ones or Asha'man at Dumai's Wells after all. You probably recall the scene in KoD where the seafolk windfinders link to take Birgitte outside the walls of Caemlyn to rescue Elayne. In that scene, the black ajah sisters (there are something like 7 or 8 of them) are using the one power. The seafolk are linked. I specifically remember the quote saying that it was not an even fight because the seafolk were linked. In other words, NONE of the black ajah, individually, could stop the windfinders from shielding herself.
So I agree with you that linking gives the AS a huge advantage. While EVERY shield the damane throw at a linked group of AS will fail, EVERY shield the AS use against the damane will succeed. It is like when the 13 sisters kidnap Rand in LoC. Rand was powerless to stop them. The AS should go on the offensive and simply gate into Ebou Dar with a hundred groups of 13 women linked, and shield every last damane they see, and capture/execute all the sul'dam. The AS could easily win if they attack now.
The Seanchan dealt a blow to the AS, but I'd like to see the AS fight back with at least a semblance of tactical flare. Egwene has over 2000 channelers at the tower now. She should use them.
When you link, you basically do nothing other than create a super-strong channeler. You trade a bunch of little guns for one big gun. The other people in the link are merely ambulatory magazines or batteries. Given their inability to fight without their lives being threatened, and their certain knowledge that the Seanchan would prefer to take them alive, the circles jumping into Seanchan territory will not have any first strike capability and very little practice using the Power as a weapon, whereas the Seanchan have institutionalized procedures and practices. Alivia's skill with weapon weaves might not be shared by all the damane, but you can bet the sul'dam have it all down. They view the White Tower as their greatest adversary and believe all other opposition they have faced thus far is connected to the Tower. Do you REALLY think they don't have contingency plans for an army of channelers appearing in their midst? After initial attempts to shield the sisters fail, they will simply start trying to kill them.
The Seanchan collar channelers primarily because they need them to fight other channelers - their top priority is control of all channelers, NOT having the Power. If they cannot leash the channelers, they will destroy them, rather than leave mareth'damane free.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
Learning traveling will help the Seanchan, but the AS still have the advantage.
17/12/2009 01:13:32 AM
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Re: Learning traveling will help the Seanchan, but the AS still have the advantage.
17/12/2009 01:39:32 AM
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Linking provides another benefit.
17/12/2009 02:02:05 AM
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Wow, if that happens, I will be her biggest fan *NM*
17/12/2009 02:10:01 AM
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Me too! Destroying the White Tower would make even me like Egwene. *NM*
17/12/2009 11:36:03 AM
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Ideally, both would be destroyed! Along with the rest of Randland. Muahahahahaha!!
18/12/2009 12:40:55 AM
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What an utterly stupid idea.
17/12/2009 11:35:24 AM
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Your facts are incorrect.
17/12/2009 02:41:42 PM
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They were losing at Dumai's Wells. That's why they had to tie off Rand's shield
17/12/2009 08:18:32 PM
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The army of Night, fighting against the Seanchan Empire, surely have linked channelers
18/12/2009 04:34:52 AM
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Is that the Superpower they're looking for all along? *NM*
17/12/2009 02:02:25 AM
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No, the superpower is the "atomic bomb-like" weapon at the Kin's farm that melted sand.
17/12/2009 03:10:01 AM
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another linking advantage
17/12/2009 02:10:56 AM
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All that will do is take the best fighters out of action.
17/12/2009 11:55:55 AM
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I have to agree with Cannoli on this, but with a twist.
17/12/2009 02:46:03 PM
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Why mace of air?
17/12/2009 05:58:32 PM
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I can't compete with deathgates to outer space, but damane can be rehabilitated.
17/12/2009 08:10:17 PM
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So can soldiers. Lots of Taraboners, Altarans, etc in Seanchan army.
17/12/2009 10:08:32 PM
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Oh, yes. Because damane NEVER fight soldiers, and would thus ignore them.
17/12/2009 09:00:41 PM
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Re: All that will do is take the best fighters out of action.
19/12/2009 06:10:26 PM
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Do you really think the Aes Sedai would let them control the circles if they had a say?
21/12/2009 08:23:46 PM
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Re: Do you really think the Aes Sedai would let them control the circles if they had a say?
22/12/2009 02:04:11 AM
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Why did you post this?
17/12/2009 09:35:09 AM
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What post are you talking about?
17/12/2009 04:57:14 PM
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thanks for the credit... PS I'm a guy *NM*
18/12/2009 12:10:56 AM
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Ooops
18/12/2009 12:48:22 AM
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I'm totally teasing you ... I added the "sedai" to be snarky
18/12/2009 12:55:51 AM
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Yeah, I don't get that: Fantasy gender-nuetral honorific, plus Real World male name = female?
18/12/2009 05:35:17 AM
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Asha'man can' link either and they didn't have a problem moving an army
17/12/2009 08:16:48 PM
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Rand's campaign lasted more than a week. The AS could move the entire army in 5 minutes.
17/12/2009 08:28:40 PM
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