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I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy Send a noteboard - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM
Everyone in Randland writes off Murandy as being unimportant. Most of the readers are doing the same thing. Roedran is mentioned in passing (but several times).

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Demandred is Roedran, but that doesn't mean he's not doing something with the Asha'man too.
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The legend of Murandy's unimportance Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:02:16 PM 1104 Views
But it's still a small country Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:06:24 PM 508 Views
Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:10:11 PM 510 Views
Re: Again, Murandy might be a bit smaller Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:22 PM 478 Views
The Dragonsworn made chaos in half of the Westlands. Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:55:00 PM 726 Views
Agreed, only Sammael, Rhavin and Be'lal really laid claim to nations darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:12:17 PM 476 Views
to confirm you amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:47:22 PM 479 Views
I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 03:06:54 PM 481 Views
As said, controlling Murandy plus chaos by the Dragonsworn in 6 Westland nations. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:11:25 PM 210 Views
well no, arad doman and tarabon were not his.... *NM* mazza3 - 15/12/2009 03:57:27 PM 218 Views
Umm.., care to elaborate? *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:10:15 PM 209 Views
I was pretty sure that the Dragonsworn as a fighting force were destroyed. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 04:07:38 PM 435 Views
But the Dragonsworn caused much chaos everywhere they were through the series... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:28:42 PM 416 Views
But that's not the Shadow's aim. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 06:32:38 PM 437 Views
What if the only way to free the DO involves the world lacking the order necessary to contain him? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 11:59:47 PM 412 Views
I have always said that Demandred is loosely based on Hannibal Barca... Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:29:22 PM 504 Views
Those a pretty flimsy conformities, IMO... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:53:04 PM 454 Views
Of course.. Shannow - 15/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 438 Views
The Seanchan have elephants too ... S'redit I think they call them darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:04:40 AM 493 Views
Yes, but with so many Trollocs who needs vast armies of men? darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 07:15:08 PM 436 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. dadof5 - 15/12/2009 08:15:05 PM 505 Views
Re: I'm just not convinced that this would be a coup major enough to earn Demandred DO Kudos. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 08:28:02 PM 420 Views
But this has been going on since at least aCoS darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 12:07:08 AM 416 Views
Re: But this has been going on since at least aCoS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:01:00 PM 458 Views
well, it's not like the Forsaken have been particularly impressive thus far darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:51:38 PM 409 Views
It's about the impact of action. Timing. amirebram - 15/12/2009 10:53:03 PM 417 Views
Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? Shannow - 15/12/2009 04:06:42 PM 580 Views
Well... Etzel - 15/12/2009 04:22:57 PM 462 Views
Re: Why does Demandred say: "We" will be ready? Why not "I" will be ready? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2009 07:59:16 PM 448 Views
It is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 15/12/2009 10:49:20 PM 420 Views
It's importance lies in it's strategic location. Rurouni_Kenshin - 16/12/2009 04:46:20 AM 424 Views
I think some Murandians might mention Trollocs gathering there. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:05:29 AM 448 Views
what if they're wearing dresses and lady masks? *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 09:10:57 AM 210 Views
Do the ladies in Murandy wear masks? I don't recall. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 09:24:46 AM 432 Views
masks to look like ladies *NM* Deadsy - 16/12/2009 04:11:07 PM 207 Views
Note to self: Avoid the Murandian ladies... *NM* BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 05:06:04 PM 219 Views
Moridin is gathering the Trollocs in the Blight, as we learn in TGS! Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:13:38 PM 408 Views
A Murandian army is insignificant. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 07:59:54 PM 420 Views
For example, the Great Captain Bryne doesn't agree with you... Etzel - 16/12/2009 08:25:19 PM 414 Views
Maybe he's based in an alternate universe? BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:26:53 PM 401 Views
He doesn't? Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:37:34 PM 396 Views
Like the supposed unimportance of Murandy, it's a typical misunderstanding... Etzel - 17/12/2009 11:56:16 AM 488 Views
Re: A Murandian army is insignificant. Sidious - 16/12/2009 08:27:28 PM 444 Views
Surely you jest. Fanatic-Templar - 16/12/2009 11:39:23 PM 382 Views
Re: Surely you jest. Sidious - 17/12/2009 06:35:57 AM 409 Views
Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 17/12/2009 08:33:12 PM 410 Views
As said, it's additional chaos and strife. Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:01:05 PM 835 Views
Its illogical to assume that Westlanders... Heiko - 16/12/2009 12:25:08 AM 426 Views
But that is exactly... Etzel - 16/12/2009 11:53:11 AM 429 Views
I agree mostly. It's a common RJ theme Deadsy - 16/12/2009 07:42:39 AM 472 Views
Honestly, at this point BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 09:07:35 AM 423 Views
In my view... Etzel - 16/12/2009 12:10:20 PM 408 Views
Re: In my view... BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 04:08:41 PM 410 Views
Kisman's pov shows Demandred has been involved in the BT Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 06:01:49 AM 511 Views
I think... Etzel - 17/12/2009 12:07:05 PM 399 Views
You're right Light in the Night - 17/12/2009 12:33:35 PM 416 Views
Interesting. BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 05:41:20 PM 377 Views
Aran'gar playing Demandred... Etzel - 17/12/2009 06:23:23 PM 410 Views
Ah, right that order is certainly out of character with Demandred. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:40:32 PM 182 Views
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