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Two things... Shannow Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM
This attack ordered by "Sammael" was rather done to discredit Demandred in the Nae'blis' eyes and confuse the other Forsaken. Such a mind-game fits Graendal. If it had weakened Rand's group, much the better. But I doubt that any Forsaken could really believe that they would kill Rand with this army, especially after the Cleansing experience.

And on Fain, he also wants to kill Rand personally. I doubt that he would send an army against him. It's also not really his M.O. (besides the problem, if Fain could pose as Sammael, etc.).


Graendal is the one Forsaken who knew that Sammael was dead. To disguise herself as him would obviously be idiotic, and create a scandal, which it in fact did. The fool who was prancing around as Sammael must have considered him to still be alive, and took a chance to frame him, or discredit him in Moridin's eyes. Graendal wouldn't use such a disguise any more than she'd go around as Asmodean or Be'lal.

Semirhage on the other hand is curious about most of the Forsaken's fates, and she could have made this error. Demandred might well have too.

Graendal also doesn't use military strategy. It's almost completely excluded from her persona.


Firstly, I've read and reread your quote from Graendal which supposedly eliminates her as a suspect, and I don't see how you get to your conclusion. Sending Trollocs to try and kill Rand is EXACTLY what someone would do if they don't want to face him directly themselves.

As for Demandred not realising that Sammael is dead, well, he is in fact the first one who says that it cannot be Sammael because he has could not have remained in hiding for so long. So if you exclude Graendal as a suspect based on her suspecting Sammael to be dead, then you have to exclude Demandred as well, since he came to the same conclusion.
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