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I agree Sidious Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM
She's the only Forsaken at the time that is trying to suss out Rand's abilities... and this attack seemed way too amateurish to the work of Demandred and far too upfront to be the work of Graendal


I wrote a whole theory on this topic, and it makes is a challenge prove now that Semirhage is dead.

Moridin says that Sammael is alive, and Demandred immediately says that's nonsense because Sammael liked to be the center of attention. When Semirhage probes about the attack, Moridin says that it was Sammael who sent the Trollocs. At this point, Demandred realized that he'd made a huge error because he already knew about Semirhage's plan to attack Rand - he didn't know that she'd used a disguise in the form of Sammael. He therefore said he'd been wrong, to try and correct the situation, and it caused a stir.

Of course the other possibility is that Fain gained Sammael's influence over the Shadow when mashadar absorbed him. BS commented that the DO would not resurrect Sammael because something nasty had happened to his soul, so this might be the reason.
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Part of a mystery from KoD is solved Logain - 14/12/2009 08:37:45 PM 1462 Views
Only SH can distinguish saidin and saidar Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:46:31 PM 824 Views
I think this Mydraal in question was Shaidar Haran 1.5, was it not? I don't remember. *NM* Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:50:24 PM 306 Views
SH obviously wasn't one of the Myrddraal, who were ordered by "Sammael" to attack Rand. *NM* Etzel - 14/12/2009 08:53:43 PM 266 Views
Graendal's streith gown gives a lot away... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:53:49 PM 1483 Views
Yes... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:00:26 PM 669 Views
Why would she be worried about that if she ordered it, though? BlackAdder - 15/12/2009 02:01:10 AM 609 Views
I think she excludes herself in TGS Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:39:18 AM 774 Views
Very interesting argument... Shannow - 14/12/2009 08:49:08 PM 742 Views
Alviarin's Mark doesn't give her control over shadowspawn. RJ told us this in a Q&A. Marshall - 14/12/2009 08:49:50 PM 595 Views
Link please to the RJ quote. *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:31:06 PM 238 Views
Here is the quote: Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:35:34 PM 557 Views
Thanks! So we can eliminate Alviarrin for sure! *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 03:50:05 PM 226 Views
I always thought it was Demandred kcf - 14/12/2009 08:59:01 PM 979 Views
I saw Demandred's comment to mean the following: Shannow - 14/12/2009 09:07:26 PM 693 Views
I also interpreted... Etzel - 14/12/2009 09:17:19 PM 568 Views
I've always thought it was Semirhage's doing darius_sedai - 14/12/2009 09:39:18 PM 562 Views
I agree Sidious - 15/12/2009 04:44:14 AM 669 Views
In my view... Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:32:18 AM 530 Views
Graendal is low on my list Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:47:20 PM 578 Views
Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Etzel - 15/12/2009 01:58:34 PM 593 Views
Re: Posing as Sammael is Graendal's modus operandi Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:21:07 PM 787 Views
But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:42:27 PM 593 Views
Re: But if she want's to appear as Sammael, she would surely "act in character"... Sidious - 15/12/2009 03:01:40 PM 530 Views
I think it makes perfect sense Etzel - 15/12/2009 03:20:28 PM 511 Views
Two things... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:03:23 PM 561 Views
Re: Two things... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:24:42 PM 635 Views
Let's look at purpose and method... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:34:36 PM 614 Views
I don't think it makes much sense that this was a test Etzel - 15/12/2009 07:20:52 AM 579 Views
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