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no actually you cannot darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM
That Moridin betrayed the Shadow here, because Rand survived and will in the end defeat the DO.

That's nonsense. Fact is, Moridin simply didn't want that Rand died. He didn't care about Sammael or betraying him.


The standing order even then was "Let the Lord of Chaos Reign" ... and Rand was not to be killed! Sammael was in the midst of betraying these orders. The DO wants Rand alive for some reason, not just Moridin... note how SH told Semirhage not to kill Rand too ... it's not just egos going on here.
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Two idiot Forsaken in the Prologue Sidious - 10/12/2009 04:31:10 PM 1568 Views
Oh you are being unfair! darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 04:49:31 PM 706 Views
LOL. Are you implying Mesaana killed Asmodean? *NM* Logain - 10/12/2009 07:13:27 PM 268 Views
That would be a funny twist, but in reality I think we all know darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 08:10:16 PM 566 Views
Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 04:56:32 PM 710 Views
Mesaana was motivated out of... Logain - 10/12/2009 07:16:43 PM 627 Views
Ah, then she would be more of an idiot than I thought. 2nd Rate indeed. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 08:19:05 PM 238 Views
Re: Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:47:43 AM 662 Views
But BS said that Shaidar Haran couldn't do things in the physical world without aid. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 03:20:59 PM 570 Views
I think that just proves SH isn't gay! *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/12/2009 04:07:47 PM 257 Views
Or it could just prove darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:42:33 PM 546 Views
Re: Or it could just prove RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 07:00:57 PM 482 Views
I agree, but I think it's about the DO being totally random darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:07:17 PM 563 Views
Did he say he could not touch things, or that he just could not counter uber-channeling? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:30:40 AM 501 Views
I don't ever want to find out who Demandred is Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:47:58 PM 503 Views
Imagine how bad it would be if BlackAdder - 11/12/2009 11:22:56 PM 498 Views
I would say... Etzel - 10/12/2009 04:58:15 PM 621 Views
he hasn't really done anything lankyevilme - 10/12/2009 05:25:03 PM 614 Views
But the point is valid darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 05:32:12 PM 752 Views
I'm pretty sure he did something... Etzel - 10/12/2009 05:33:04 PM 603 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure he did something... darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 07:51:25 PM 487 Views
Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* Etzel - 10/12/2009 08:29:24 PM 503 Views
Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM 454 Views
I tend to agree Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:52:51 AM 616 Views
I think Demandred is pretty smart... Etzel - 11/12/2009 11:45:58 AM 520 Views
of course he's never set foot anywhere close to anything long enough darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 02:11:19 PM 488 Views
Is it smart to take a risk... Etzel - 11/12/2009 02:22:18 PM 474 Views
I think your making a lot of assumptions darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:40:47 PM 503 Views
Well... Etzel - 11/12/2009 06:04:47 PM 509 Views
Re: Well... darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:15:06 PM 637 Views
I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM 498 Views
Either a Channeler or Mat darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 425 Views
According to RJ... Sidious - 12/12/2009 12:32:12 PM 591 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:39:08 PM 503 Views
Re: makes you wonder Etzel - 12/12/2009 03:47:18 PM 477 Views
Thanks for the BS quote, that's new news to me! darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:55:37 PM 477 Views
Moridin didn't want to betrayal Sammael... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:07:49 PM 465 Views
It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM 505 Views
Then you could also say... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM 464 Views
no actually you cannot darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM 465 Views
Ah, I give up... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:50:07 PM 468 Views
thanks for your permission darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:53:01 PM 482 Views
To be fair, Mesaana's brood of channelers promise could still come to fruition. *NM* RandAllThor - 10/12/2009 04:58:28 PM 276 Views
Yup, especially if she is a higher-up AS in the tower. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 05:57:12 PM 540 Views
Sanderson's first attempt at portraying the Forsaken based on character summaries in RJ's notes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 05:29:51 PM 688 Views
Well... Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:55:17 AM 526 Views
That was RJ's biggest flaw, IMO Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:45:41 PM 534 Views
I'll respond to someone who wants to say that beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:19:52 PM 583 Views
Ya. Fain's a good exception. I still have hopes for him. And... Thereva was scary, but... Deadsy - 11/12/2009 08:32:38 PM 478 Views
Slayer/Luc/Isam is also pretty cool. Lord Haart - 12/12/2009 04:16:14 PM 474 Views
One theme of tGS was "The Forsaken are actually pretty lame" beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:12:55 PM 521 Views
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