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I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel Send a noteboard - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM
RJ mentioned Demandred as the second Top Forsaken once:
"With the Forsaken, where treachery and backstabbing were an acceptable way of getting ahead, the turnover in the upper ranks was fairly high, though Ishamael, Demandred, Lanfear, Graendal, Semirhage, and later Sammael, were always at the top end of the pyramid."

Therefore it seems doubtful that he is the least intelligent. Besides that, the other Forsaken all consider him very dangerous. Plus, we know e.g. from the Guide that he is a very powerful channeler.

Again, just because we readers don't know yet what Demandred was up to (we just have our theories), naturally doesn't mean that he did nothing.


Just because RJ mentioned him second does not mean that he was #2, he just listed the Top 6 FS ... these were the people most skilled at personal and political survival, and were likely all so close that an open battle between them would have uncertain outcome.

Undoubtedly he's a dangerous man. But for the record Graendal actually believed Semirhage was more dangerous than Demandred until TGS... the fact that she seems surprised that he would openly threaten Semirhage is telling.

Anyway, my opinion of Demandred is that he's plotting from the shadows and will have a spectacular failure, probably ending in an uninspired death... maybe RJ will have him fall off his horse and break his neck :P


I think, though, that a channeler will kill him (not necessarily Rand).
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Two idiot Forsaken in the Prologue Sidious - 10/12/2009 04:31:10 PM 1487 Views
Oh you are being unfair! darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 04:49:31 PM 632 Views
LOL. Are you implying Mesaana killed Asmodean? *NM* Logain - 10/12/2009 07:13:27 PM 236 Views
That would be a funny twist, but in reality I think we all know darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 08:10:16 PM 498 Views
Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 04:56:32 PM 641 Views
Mesaana was motivated out of... Logain - 10/12/2009 07:16:43 PM 547 Views
Ah, then she would be more of an idiot than I thought. 2nd Rate indeed. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/12/2009 08:19:05 PM 214 Views
Re: Yes; this pretty much matched my expectations - esp. for Demandred. Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:47:43 AM 594 Views
But BS said that Shaidar Haran couldn't do things in the physical world without aid. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 03:20:59 PM 499 Views
I think that just proves SH isn't gay! *NM* fionwe1987 - 11/12/2009 04:07:47 PM 225 Views
Or it could just prove darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:42:33 PM 475 Views
Re: Or it could just prove RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/12/2009 07:00:57 PM 422 Views
I agree, but I think it's about the DO being totally random darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:07:17 PM 498 Views
Did he say he could not touch things, or that he just could not counter uber-channeling? Datakim - 12/12/2009 12:30:40 AM 432 Views
I don't ever want to find out who Demandred is Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:47:58 PM 441 Views
Imagine how bad it would be if BlackAdder - 11/12/2009 11:22:56 PM 436 Views
I would say... Etzel - 10/12/2009 04:58:15 PM 550 Views
he hasn't really done anything lankyevilme - 10/12/2009 05:25:03 PM 544 Views
But the point is valid darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 05:32:12 PM 688 Views
I'm pretty sure he did something... Etzel - 10/12/2009 05:33:04 PM 530 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure he did something... darius_sedai - 10/12/2009 07:51:25 PM 424 Views
Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* Etzel - 10/12/2009 08:29:24 PM 437 Views
Re: Yeah, but now Graendal is dead, while Demandred is still alive. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 12:17:54 AM 390 Views
I tend to agree Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:52:51 AM 551 Views
I think Demandred is pretty smart... Etzel - 11/12/2009 11:45:58 AM 440 Views
of course he's never set foot anywhere close to anything long enough darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 02:11:19 PM 419 Views
Is it smart to take a risk... Etzel - 11/12/2009 02:22:18 PM 409 Views
I think your making a lot of assumptions darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 05:40:47 PM 445 Views
Well... Etzel - 11/12/2009 06:04:47 PM 433 Views
Re: Well... darius_sedai - 11/12/2009 07:15:06 PM 553 Views
I agree that Demandred will fail in the end. Etzel - 12/12/2009 11:00:59 AM 432 Views
Either a Channeler or Mat darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:41:09 PM 359 Views
According to RJ... Sidious - 12/12/2009 12:32:12 PM 515 Views
makes you wonder darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:39:08 PM 429 Views
Re: makes you wonder Etzel - 12/12/2009 03:47:18 PM 408 Views
Thanks for the BS quote, that's new news to me! darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 03:55:37 PM 399 Views
Moridin didn't want to betrayal Sammael... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:07:49 PM 398 Views
It amounts to the same thing darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:12:42 PM 428 Views
Then you could also say... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:22:30 PM 392 Views
no actually you cannot darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:46:03 PM 400 Views
Ah, I give up... Etzel - 12/12/2009 04:50:07 PM 394 Views
thanks for your permission darius_sedai - 12/12/2009 04:53:01 PM 413 Views
To be fair, Mesaana's brood of channelers promise could still come to fruition. *NM* RandAllThor - 10/12/2009 04:58:28 PM 247 Views
Yup, especially if she is a higher-up AS in the tower. Lord Haart - 10/12/2009 05:57:12 PM 453 Views
Sanderson's first attempt at portraying the Forsaken based on character summaries in RJ's notes... Shannow - 10/12/2009 05:29:51 PM 619 Views
Well... Sidious - 11/12/2009 06:55:17 AM 452 Views
That was RJ's biggest flaw, IMO Deadsy - 11/12/2009 02:45:41 PM 469 Views
I'll respond to someone who wants to say that beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:19:52 PM 502 Views
Ya. Fain's a good exception. I still have hopes for him. And... Thereva was scary, but... Deadsy - 11/12/2009 08:32:38 PM 412 Views
Slayer/Luc/Isam is also pretty cool. Lord Haart - 12/12/2009 04:16:14 PM 408 Views
One theme of tGS was "The Forsaken are actually pretty lame" beetnemesis - 11/12/2009 05:12:55 PM 453 Views
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