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Will you please look at your argument? Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 10/12/2009 09:40:42 PM
What you are saying is that Verin, in a fit of genius and through some fortunate or unique events that are never even hinted at having existed or through some knowledge that is always said to not exist managed to arrive at a miraculous discovery she is never suggested to know, and this allowed her to be an incredible idiot.

Which of these scenarios seems the more likely to you?

Contrary to everything we know from the books, Verin, through sheer brilliance and a lifetime devotion to finding ways to break the Oaths (I thought she devoted her lifetime to studying the Black Ajah?) made a marvelous discovery that no other Aes Sedai has ever made in two thousand years based on some hypothetical events that exist only for the sake of reaching this conclusion, which enabled her to act uncharacteristically stupidly by killing herself when she could simply have used this miraculous discovery that was researched specifically for this purpose and to which she had devoted her last seventy years, ensuring said discovery will never be revealed to anybody, including the readers.

Or,

Verin chose the best solution she had based on the knowledge available to her.
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I finished tGS last night... and really had to come back to you all. - 09/12/2009 02:11:05 AM 1558 Views
You bring up some good points - 09/12/2009 03:20:37 AM 1047 Views
What if Verin really WAS Black? - 09/12/2009 03:32:07 PM 855 Views
Pretty much agree with you. - 09/12/2009 03:21:08 AM 820 Views
Hey, long time no see. Glad you're back! *NM* - 09/12/2009 03:28:50 AM 422 Views
Good to see you too, F-T. *NM* - 17/12/2009 09:58:26 PM 308 Views
Silly Verin! She did not need to die. - 09/12/2009 03:53:23 AM 933 Views
Re: Silly Verin! She did not need to die. - 09/12/2009 06:11:02 AM 820 Views
And does she know that Stilling breaks the Oaths? *NM* - 09/12/2009 06:16:54 AM 358 Views
She should. Some of the Aes Sedai who swore to Rand had been Stilled and then Restored by Flinn. - 09/12/2009 03:18:10 PM 786 Views
Then, wouldn't the BA/Shadow just kill her off? I think it'd be kind of obvious what she did. *NM* - 09/12/2009 03:23:05 PM 505 Views
I think that's beyond the BA's capabilities. - 09/12/2009 03:48:03 PM 677 Views
Doesn't mean they experimented with it. - 09/12/2009 08:48:23 PM 728 Views
Rebels had no reason to research a way to break the oaths. Verin did. - 10/12/2009 02:00:21 AM 762 Views
You're going at it upside-down. - 10/12/2009 02:33:41 AM 735 Views
Verin should have figured it out - 10/12/2009 03:03:14 AM 719 Views
Why? - 10/12/2009 04:15:45 AM 714 Views
I was just rereading that section yesterday.... - 10/12/2009 10:52:23 AM 896 Views
It all seems intuitively obvious to me! - 10/12/2009 07:58:46 PM 858 Views
Will you please look at your argument? - 10/12/2009 09:40:42 PM 779 Views
Re: It all seems intuitively obvious to me! - 11/12/2009 07:38:17 AM 781 Views
The damn Oath Rod! - 12/12/2009 01:32:47 AM 917 Views
Just having motivation is not enough - 11/12/2009 03:52:40 PM 806 Views
Agreed, you also need a working brain. Where did Verin's go? - 12/12/2009 12:54:17 AM 620 Views
I don't think those would work - 09/12/2009 07:03:38 AM 750 Views
She should and could have found a better way. - 09/12/2009 07:41:28 AM 756 Views
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Re: She should and could have found a better way. - 10/12/2009 12:13:40 AM 748 Views
Re: She should and could have found a better way. - 10/12/2009 02:30:14 AM 716 Views
Re: Silly Verin! She did not need to die. - 09/12/2009 08:44:31 PM 820 Views
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I always thought Masema was an irritating distraction and was glad he was killed quickly. - 09/12/2009 03:53:44 AM 784 Views
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Hey Mark. - 17/12/2009 10:00:58 PM 751 Views
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Yep, and Sheriam ended up losing a finger or two in the process. - 09/12/2009 03:49:45 PM 747 Views
Why do you think we'll never see Mesaana closure? *NM* - 09/12/2009 06:07:08 AM 490 Views
Re: Why do you think we'll never see Mesaana closure? - 09/12/2009 06:13:22 AM 693 Views
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