I Won't Say You're Wrong, but I'll Give You 10:1 Against.
The Name With No Man Send a noteboard - 04/12/2009 07:12:56 PM
Perhaps more shocking would be for the Rand-Moridin link to seep hope into Moridin, leading Moridin, at the last moment when Rand is utterly beaten, to turn on the Shadow and use the Dark Ones own power to reseal the bore. Moridin, as a philosopher, is presently at peace with the annihilation of all things, but if some of Rand's newfound hope and love seeps through their peculiar bond, then could not Moridin save the day even as an intellectual exercise?
"I cannot accept the end of all things if any part of me believes in hope, Rand al'Thor! Next time I will remember my mental failing and defeat you utterly!"
"I cannot accept the end of all things if any part of me believes in hope, Rand al'Thor! Next time I will remember my mental failing and defeat you utterly!"
There are no factual flaws, certainly, but it's counter to the sense and spirit of Ishy start to finish. He knows each turning of the Wheel, each Rebirth, means greater flux, an opportunity for a novel ending: He's counting on it to release him from a vicious and never ending cycle. Unless something happens we've never seen him reference, Ishy serving the Creator as he says the Dragon has served the DO in Ages past (and if you think about it it almost makes sense, because if the Dragon is the DO's Champion whom is the Creator's, whom does he fight?) then oblivion must be nearly as appealing to him as it is to the DO. He must fail, fail, fail, always totally, always epically, and as long as he serves the DO the only alternative is victory--which means annihilation.
So I can't see any "hope for Salvation and Rebirth" for Ishy in the Wheel. He's an extremely tired man, even apart from having been in and out of consciousness for a generation every thousand years since the Breaking. At this point he probably hates existence as much as the DO does.
Shadow win?
01/12/2009 04:20:36 PM
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The Shadow kind of has a big trump card
01/12/2009 04:30:38 PM
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If the Dark One wins, and destroys the Pattern, becomes the Creator and the Creator becomes the DO
01/12/2009 06:36:47 PM
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I used to hope for that, but the DO quotes and his choice of followers make it hard to like him. *NM*
01/12/2009 07:21:01 PM
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Fact is, people don't enjoy reading about doom and gloom.
01/12/2009 04:33:35 PM
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Yes they do. They're called the Malazaniacs ... They love emo to the max ...
02/12/2009 06:57:42 AM
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The DO is the real threat
01/12/2009 04:46:32 PM
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This is why fanfiction of soap operas and comics can be more entertaining than the real thing.
01/12/2009 06:09:17 PM
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Only if the DO isn't quite what we think he/it is.
01/12/2009 07:19:44 PM
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No, there is no sense that the Shadow can or will win.
01/12/2009 09:23:47 PM
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And RPA Reiterates Part of My Response.
02/12/2009 12:10:40 AM
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Beowulf did end badly, though
02/12/2009 05:40:52 AM
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With the Deck So Heavily Stacked in the DO's Favor, the Rest Just Makes Things Competitive.
02/12/2009 12:24:18 AM
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More Shocking
02/12/2009 04:10:58 AM
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I Won't Say You're Wrong, but I'll Give You 10:1 Against.
04/12/2009 07:12:56 PM
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I always had the sense that the DO's minions are really just meant to be distractions
02/12/2009 06:30:27 AM
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