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Moiraine and Lanfear kcf Send a noteboard - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM
I think this is pretty well believed, but I want to go on firm record for thinking it now before it's revealed in later books.

When Moiraine and Lanfear tumbled through the the ter'angreal doorway that melted, they were burned out or stilled (I'm not sure it really matters which). This explains why Lan's bond was cut. Moiraine is still captive there and will be rescued by Thom, Mat and Noel in ToM. Moiraine will likely be healed by Finn at some point. Otherwise, she'll live a happy rest of her life with Tom as a non-channeler.

Lanfear was killed. She was either executed or she committed suicide. The DO transmigrated her into Cyndane and ordered her healed. I believe she was probably healed by a BA yellow from the rebels but it's also possible that a female forsaken did it. We know it wasn't Graendal. It could have been either Moghedien, Mesaana or Semirhage. I think Moghedien is the most likely of the forsaken since she could have easily picked up the healing weave in Salidar and she is bound to Moridin, but the timeline needs to be checked on this. This is why Cyndane is lower in strength than Lanfear.


This is the most simple and reasonable explanation for things as we know them now. IMO, other theories are unecessarily complicated, and therefore not very likely.
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Moiraine and Lanfear kcf - 01/12/2009 10:24:54 PM 1565 Views
Healing, huh? Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 10:58:00 PM 922 Views
Re: Healing, huh? Nate - 01/12/2009 11:12:53 PM 992 Views
yep kcf - 01/12/2009 11:19:23 PM 854 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 01:15:47 AM 1168 Views
Re: yep kcf - 02/12/2009 04:44:32 PM 916 Views
Re: yep darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 05:37:41 PM 724 Views
I'm betting she decides to stay a non-channeler and put her past behind her. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/12/2009 11:09:32 PM 550 Views
I don't think Moiraine was stilled. Gher - 01/12/2009 11:19:03 PM 860 Views
what about Lan's bond kcf - 01/12/2009 11:23:35 PM 831 Views
I think that the doorway melting did that. Gher - 02/12/2009 12:49:02 AM 942 Views
Not manually Knightscape - 02/12/2009 07:13:09 AM 748 Views
Not sure, but it seemed like she planned for it. At one point BlackAdder - 02/12/2009 01:23:36 AM 734 Views
Rand wasn't stilled when beetnemesis - 02/12/2009 06:48:42 AM 777 Views
The doorway melting and snapping the bond is simple enough for me *NM* Deadsy - 01/12/2009 11:24:07 PM 425 Views
as I said above, far too many assumptions in that idea *NM* kcf - 01/12/2009 11:27:12 PM 448 Views
Re: Moiraine and Lanfear Fred Gaidin - 01/12/2009 11:27:49 PM 779 Views
Not just an assumption. Tansu Targli - 01/12/2009 11:38:56 PM 860 Views
Re: Not just an assumption. Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:45:26 PM 788 Views
it can kcf - 01/12/2009 11:40:40 PM 858 Views
Re: it can Fred Gaidin - 02/12/2009 02:51:21 PM 951 Views
I think that since Moiraine was in another dimension, the Bond passed to the closest holder. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/12/2009 11:43:15 PM 812 Views
but she'd been there before kcf - 01/12/2009 11:51:41 PM 909 Views
I don't understand why you think there are too many assumptions darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 12:57:50 AM 857 Views
Exactly. Thanks for translating in fewer words than I would have used *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2009 04:21:06 PM 522 Views
that assumes quite a bit about the structure of the bond kcf - 02/12/2009 07:45:37 PM 843 Views
no more than the assumptions of the actions take on the other side of the door! darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:51:59 AM 888 Views
My only complaint... Rand al'Thor - 02/12/2009 12:34:34 AM 786 Views
Best. Slashfic. EVER! The Name With No Man - 02/12/2009 12:38:06 AM 939 Views
BS not committing to the Cyndane = Lanfear scenario has me wondering as well Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 02:51:30 AM 1029 Views
The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" Tom - 02/12/2009 05:26:23 AM 774 Views
Re: The only possibility is "something weird" if Cyndane ISN'T just "Lanfear" AliasRY - 02/12/2009 05:46:30 AM 831 Views
That would be absolutely hilarious!!! *NM* Tom - 02/12/2009 05:49:01 AM 431 Views
That'd blow some minds. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2009 05:56:06 AM 461 Views
Maybe they put some of Ilyena in Cyndane. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:52:01 PM 868 Views
LOL ... Lanfear doesn't need Ilyena to be an LTT stalker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:09:02 PM 805 Views
Right, But Ilyena Doesn't Need Lanfear for That Either. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:17:29 PM 818 Views
I'm 99.99% sure RJ said that the DO had to grab a soul quickly after death or it was lost darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:13:18 PM 680 Views
Never Said It Had to Be the DO. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 09:43:58 PM 679 Views
it would indeed be a totall shocker! darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 09:50:16 PM 934 Views
Weird is a given, I think Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 07:12:45 AM 935 Views
It may be as simple as... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:42:50 AM 745 Views
I didn't see any sexual connotation attached to it.... Light in the Night - 02/12/2009 10:38:07 AM 752 Views
Not sexual, no... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:12:15 PM 763 Views
Cairheinin to the Core. Joel - 04/12/2009 07:03:23 PM 812 Views
Haven't you people ever seen a contortionist? darius_sedai - 04/12/2009 07:12:20 PM 710 Views
I Don't Believe I Have, Now That You Mention It. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 07:18:32 PM 739 Views
See Above. The Name With No Man - 04/12/2009 06:54:47 PM 901 Views
I doubt it kcf - 02/12/2009 08:55:23 PM 750 Views
Maybe it's a wild goose chase. Joel - 04/12/2009 06:44:55 PM 903 Views
There are several holes with this scenario... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 02:18:28 AM 923 Views
On Transmitigation vs rebirth: Gher - 02/12/2009 02:35:23 AM 1237 Views
Agreed, the angreal theory seems most likely IMO (about Lanfear/Cyndane) *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:39:55 AM 384 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... Sidious - 02/12/2009 09:05:34 AM 953 Views
On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 09:40:27 AM 672 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 02/12/2009 11:24:38 AM 703 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2009 06:16:57 PM 772 Views
Re: On Cyndane's strength... Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:39:45 AM 917 Views
But that doesn't explain why Leane and Siuan are now essentially equal darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:21:47 PM 786 Views
oops I double posted this! *NM* darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:23:02 PM 409 Views
I don't think they're equal Sidious - 03/12/2009 04:43:13 AM 729 Views
There is no deference, which would be expected in their "game" of hating each other darius_sedai - 03/12/2009 07:38:57 AM 943 Views
Re: There are several holes with this scenario... kcf - 02/12/2009 09:08:00 PM 937 Views
I don't think they were stilled or burned out. Tom - 02/12/2009 04:37:09 AM 685 Views
I have no opinion on the theory (yet), but Wotmaniac Reborn - 02/12/2009 04:42:36 AM 744 Views
Disagree. There's no way they don't. Gher - 02/12/2009 05:26:00 AM 753 Views
Moridin mentions it kcf - 02/12/2009 04:33:01 PM 708 Views
Re: Moridin mentions it darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 06:13:20 PM 743 Views
Moiraine will make a huge difference to TG (Min's viewing) so I think she will need to channel. *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2009 05:38:03 AM 436 Views
Min doesn't channel, and she makes a big difference. As does Thom. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 02/12/2009 09:57:10 AM 412 Views
agreed - Moiraine doesn't need to channel to make a difference *NM* kcf - 02/12/2009 04:38:50 PM 441 Views
Yub, I generally agree Etzel - 02/12/2009 11:56:03 AM 689 Views
I'm always nervous when we agree kcf - 02/12/2009 04:24:51 PM 739 Views
I think it's cool! Etzel - 02/12/2009 06:01:32 PM 701 Views
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