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Re: Things that irritated you in the book Cannoli Send a noteboard - 24/11/2009 04:03:03 PM
What things irritated you in the book? I mean this strictly from a plot or character PoV, not inaccuracies or problems you had with Brandon's writing. Here are mine..
Those are actually the sum of what irritated me about the books.

1. The Aes Sedai calling Nynaeve 'child'. It's so ridiculous that a woman who has accomplished so much is still being looked at as an Accepted.
She didn't meet their technicalities. In fact, she is not even truly Aes Sedai. That is ALL that counts with them. They call her child, because she is an initiate and not a sister. Recall how when Siuan and Leane were Healed they said that being as weak as they are is worse, as far as dealing with the other sisters are concerned, than not being able to channel. If Nynaeve could not channel, they would be talking to her like a normal woman. But because she is not an Aes Sedai, of course they are going to treat her that way. What is her claim to the title? Only Egwene's authority, and Merise's response to the rebel Hall was the best position I have ever seen any sister take on the situation (except for Nynaeve who isn't really loyal to the Tower). This was not irritating to me in the least, because it is perfectly consistant with the Tower's attitude, past behavior and my low opinion of them. Even Sts. Verin & Moiraine had it and expressed the attitude in the past of the inherent inferiority of channelers who were not Aes Sedai.

2. Gawyn still not believing anyone that Rand didn't hurt his mother. Gareth was probably the fourth person to try and pursuade him.
Perfectly in keeping with the themes of belief and perception. It's kind of good in a way that a. the theme is still being maintained, and b. that little petty stuff like this is still available for Rand - that not all objection is from background characters who can be steamrolled and forgotten. Like it or not, there is not a lot Rand can do about Gawyn, even if the twerp is actually fairly insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

3. The absence of Graendal on screen. In some ways this was her book, but she was absent.
She's a master of mind-games and psych-outs. Her mystery and vagueness keeps up the image of her, which supports Rand's assessment of her as an adversary.

4. Having once again heard no news on what Demandred is doing.
He's not a threat if you know where he is or how he's coming at you. Nothing killed Semirhage's menace faster than watching her fumble around ineptly as Anath.

5. Bubbles of evil. They get in the way of everything. Go away.
They need to be worse. So far, the way things are going, the current conflict has not even matched the War of the Hundred Years or the Trolloc Wars for destruction or upheaval, when in actuality, it is supposed to come near to the Breaking of the World. No one would mistake those other two crises for a second Breaking, but that is what we are supposed to get with Rand. Maybe not as bad as the last, as there are suggestions that some of the current civilization will be preserved, but the world should go through worse than it did when Hawkwing died.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
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Things that irritated you in the book - 24/11/2009 08:03:42 AM 1578 Views
on Nynaeve - 24/11/2009 10:56:23 AM 812 Views
Orange! - 24/11/2009 12:58:35 PM 889 Views
Hmm... - 24/11/2009 02:21:19 PM 806 Views
Re: Hmm... - 24/11/2009 06:13:22 PM 791 Views
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I generally agree - 25/11/2009 06:55:32 AM 783 Views
Re: Things that irritated you in the book - 24/11/2009 04:03:03 PM 800 Views
Re: Things that irritated you in the book - 25/11/2009 06:58:07 AM 593 Views
Re: Things that irritated you in the book - 24/11/2009 04:07:54 PM 808 Views
LOL Agreed on #5, 6 and 10 *NM* - 24/11/2009 04:20:36 PM 489 Views
Lol *NM* - 25/11/2009 07:00:07 AM 335 Views
Re: Things that irritated you in the book - 25/11/2009 07:13:01 PM 656 Views
Funny post - 27/11/2009 02:28:20 PM 559 Views
Bad guy retirement community - 29/11/2009 04:34:35 AM 704 Views
We did see Graendal on-screen... in the Prologue. - 24/11/2009 04:34:39 PM 707 Views
Forkroot isn't completely overcome by Linking - 24/11/2009 04:42:03 PM 594 Views
Well, forkroot is supposed to prevent someone from channeling - 24/11/2009 04:50:29 PM 597 Views
You've read the earlier books right? - 24/11/2009 05:05:45 PM 593 Views
Wrong place, ignore *NM* - 24/11/2009 05:28:34 PM 272 Views
Sure, but the question is really "how" - 24/11/2009 05:28:48 PM 592 Views
These were smaller doses dude.. Again, the previous books... - 24/11/2009 05:31:16 PM 595 Views
Still, if - 24/11/2009 05:42:35 PM 553 Views
What? - 24/11/2009 06:05:57 PM 730 Views
Yes you are right *NM* - 25/11/2009 07:00:28 AM 614 Views
Not ONE of the major fan mysteries was cleared up - 24/11/2009 05:16:10 PM 667 Views
One was... Verin's 70 year plan. Sheriam too. *NM* - 24/11/2009 05:29:06 PM 390 Views
One was... Verin's 70 year plan. Sheriam too. *NM* - 24/11/2009 05:29:12 PM 310 Views
I agree on the RAFOs! - 24/11/2009 06:36:29 PM 632 Views
Meh. It's not like we were promised answers in every book. And this is 1/3 of a book. *NM* - 24/11/2009 07:57:41 PM 271 Views
I've been waiting since 1994 to find out who killed Asmodean. *NM* - 24/11/2009 11:11:59 PM 296 Views
Then you haven't been trying hard enough. *NM* - 25/11/2009 02:07:32 AM 256 Views
Who hasn't? But I just don't see what the fuss is about. It's obviously not that important. *NM* - 25/11/2009 02:28:05 AM 278 Views
I still feel like they've intentionally dicked around with us. - 25/11/2009 04:21:35 AM 583 Views
Agreed - 25/11/2009 07:02:44 AM 538 Views
Technically No One But Asmo's Killer Is Certain He's Dead. - 27/11/2009 11:48:36 AM 505 Views
Correction: there are only TWO books left. - 27/11/2009 03:55:53 PM 533 Views
"There Are Three" In the Sense of What Was and Wasn't In This One. - 28/11/2009 06:07:09 AM 526 Views
Wow, you intentionally ignored "Taimandred" and a LOT of debates - 29/11/2009 04:02:10 PM 625 Views
I Ignored Most Long Settled Debates. - 01/12/2009 06:33:36 AM 735 Views
My copy of Mallory still guides me, though - 02/12/2009 05:46:36 AM 763 Views
Re: Things that irritated you in the book - 24/11/2009 06:09:18 PM 560 Views
Well.... - 24/11/2009 09:28:09 PM 518 Views
I totally agree about Nynaeve. - 24/11/2009 07:15:02 PM 650 Views
Nynaeve - 24/11/2009 08:53:57 PM 580 Views
Actually Merise irritated me much more *NM* *NM* - 25/11/2009 07:03:40 AM 267 Views
Oh yes, her also. *NM* - 25/11/2009 07:51:21 AM 258 Views
Merise definitely regressed in this book - 27/11/2009 01:04:35 AM 575 Views
Gawyn in general. - 25/11/2009 02:15:06 PM 612 Views
gawyn is no more annoying than in other books - 28/11/2009 12:23:12 AM 579 Views
Finally read it! - 30/11/2009 01:36:19 AM 748 Views
Re: Things that irritated you in the book - 30/11/2009 09:11:42 PM 563 Views

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