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You can't...there aren't any Black Holes close enough... Shannow Send a noteboard - 21/11/2009 03:22:38 AM
A channeler cannot even Travel to the nearest planet on his own. You need a circle for that.


And to reach another solar system, you need a circle of like 72 people (the maximum possible size). To Travel across the galaxy, you need to planet hop. Presumably, you can eventually hop to a solar system with a Black Hole.

But since the Forsaken aren't able to form such large circles - at least not during the last 3000 years, it is effectively impossible for them to make gateway over the distance required to reach a Black Hole.
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If the Forsaken really wanted to defeat the Light - gateways at the bottom of the ocean... Shannow - 20/11/2009 02:02:59 PM 1844 Views
I've actually thought that would be a great way to make a power plant. Narg - 20/11/2009 02:48:21 PM 854 Views
I t doesn't defy EXACTLY the laws of conservation guttering flame - 20/11/2009 03:02:16 PM 1146 Views
The Forsaken don't think like that Sidious - 20/11/2009 02:57:27 PM 874 Views
I specifically referred to Ishamael, who shares none of those motivations with the other Forsaken... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:11:26 PM 1097 Views
What in the world... outer space?? This is fantasy, not sci-fi *NM* BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 03:08:26 PM 431 Views
RJ has stated that channelers can Travel to other planets, even other solar systems... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:12:37 PM 760 Views
I didn't expect him to answer that question, it was just something I was wondering about Ryan - 20/11/2009 04:06:53 PM 810 Views
OK... BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:15:32 PM 718 Views
Moghedien talks about how they travelled to other stars in the Age of Legends... Shannow - 20/11/2009 06:09:17 PM 880 Views
Because it is a world that is undergoing an industrial revolution Ryan - 21/11/2009 01:19:28 AM 726 Views
Tied off gateways dissappear after a while *NM* Logain - 20/11/2009 03:15:56 PM 385 Views
No. Only if the knott is deliberately tied loosely... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:20:18 PM 695 Views
This brings up an "Evil Wins, What Next?" scenario I've always wondered about Sandwich - 20/11/2009 03:39:14 PM 837 Views
Nah Ryan - 20/11/2009 04:12:27 PM 706 Views
Read Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. =) *NM* Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 07:18:01 PM 413 Views
The DO doesn't have the motivations of the forsaken, he doesn't think like a human... Napoleon62 - 22/11/2009 03:38:15 PM 832 Views
They would have to know the bottom of the ocean very well to create. *NM* LlordNakcor - 20/11/2009 05:02:50 PM 354 Views
Wouldn't be too hard, given Rand's trick. *NM* BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:12:22 PM 401 Views
Intense preasure would kill you before you could weave or a hell of a shield bubble *NM* LlordNakcor - 20/11/2009 07:01:58 PM 488 Views
You're kidding right? LewsTherin10 - 20/11/2009 05:31:36 PM 722 Views
Yeah, this has actually been discussed Marshall - 20/11/2009 05:50:21 PM 927 Views
Re: Yeah, this has actually been discussed Lohikaarme - 21/08/2010 02:19:15 AM 727 Views
Gateway "magic" accounts for this, or most gateways would have STRONG breeze Asha'man Warder - 20/11/2009 06:43:44 PM 812 Views
Very conducive places, the bottom of the sea and outer space... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 07:01:56 PM 4183 Views
Knee jerk disagreement without thinking beyond: "I don't like the idea so let's flame it..." Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:12:38 PM 947 Views
Actually... Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 09:15:39 PM 788 Views
And your response is even sillier ideas? Think for more than three minutes before responding again. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 11:08:59 PM 715 Views
I must say... this has been highly entertaining! *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:59:51 AM 702 Views
Yeah... I've been chuckling at this whole thread Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:23:51 AM 839 Views
You need to go read FoH again... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:35:01 AM 834 Views
The Silliness Continues-Part IV of Shannow's crazy ways to commit suicide... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 05:44:34 AM 728 Views
Struggling a bit are you? Shannow - 21/11/2009 06:30:13 AM 797 Views
On the limits of power guttering flame - 21/11/2009 07:32:44 AM 763 Views
Great question. These fundamental issues are the REAL challenges to be overcome, yes... Shannow - 21/11/2009 07:50:46 AM 742 Views
Thanks guttering flame - 21/11/2009 08:03:28 AM 768 Views
Fluids CAN move across gateways on their own. We saw it with the draft of wind in tGS. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:32:46 PM 422 Views
Oh, and regarding the new Travelling skill Nynaeve mentions in tGS... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:03:45 AM 781 Views
Ah, thanks guttering flame - 21/11/2009 08:10:48 AM 713 Views
Actually, I just reread that passage, and now I'm confused again... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:30:17 AM 736 Views
Its pretty simple... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:07:14 PM 690 Views
You don't learn a place when you Travel TO it... Shannow - 21/11/2009 08:23:11 PM 717 Views
The same issue again... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:58:37 PM 701 Views
No, you're wrong, and here are the quotes... Shannow - 22/11/2009 06:51:06 AM 909 Views
That might mean nothing... fionwe1987 - 22/11/2009 06:37:33 PM 812 Views
That does seem inconsistent... Legolas - 21/11/2009 09:25:52 PM 951 Views
They might have shared Gateways, so only those who wove them know the area? *NM* Marshall - 21/11/2009 10:00:04 PM 363 Views
That has to be the first sensible question broached in this thread... Legolas - 21/11/2009 09:18:59 PM 888 Views
Since Shannow seems to think disagreeing with him is EVIL... fionwe1987 - 21/11/2009 08:38:55 PM 754 Views
Re: On the limits of power Tor - 20/08/2010 06:25:19 PM 711 Views
Such a geek Camilla - 20/08/2010 08:08:11 PM 905 Views
The One Power is completely impenetrable to regular matter Marshall - 21/11/2009 08:16:58 AM 673 Views
The simplest explanation'd be that GWs can't be opened in water, since it moves/changes constantly Lordling - 20/11/2009 07:27:08 PM 659 Views
Balefire is much, much easier . TheCrownless - 20/11/2009 08:50:24 PM 717 Views
Or balefire Rand. Wait a few generations near Dragonmount, kidnap all children born on the slopes... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 09:07:46 PM 740 Views
The Forsaken DON'T want to defeat the Light. Rand al'Thor - 20/11/2009 09:18:42 PM 827 Views
Why didn't Frodo and Sam just ride the Eagles to Mt. Doom, and toss the Ring then fly back? *NM* Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:35:17 PM 397 Views
lol Straight from www.HowMoviesShouldHaveEnded.com *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/11/2009 01:15:45 AM 367 Views
The Forsaken are still doing the Light's will. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/11/2009 01:42:16 AM 703 Views
Actually here's an even simpler idea: open a gateway into a Black Hole. *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:53:38 AM 477 Views
You can't...there aren't any Black Holes close enough... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:22:38 AM 742 Views
Doubtful Marshall - 21/11/2009 03:29:35 AM 684 Views
Let me clarify...you CAN Travel to other solar system... Shannow - 21/11/2009 03:39:36 AM 772 Views
You're right, I just went back and checked the sources Marshall - 24/11/2009 12:04:09 AM 685 Views
Surely Moridin could channel enough of the True Power... *NM* BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 01:19:05 PM 324 Views
Moridin cannot channel any more of the True Power than he can of the One Power. Shannow - 21/11/2009 01:58:30 PM 676 Views
He managed to do great fits with the power he had. guttering flame - 21/11/2009 05:12:52 PM 657 Views
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