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The Forsaken DON'T want to defeat the Light. Rand al'Thor Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 09:18:42 PM
Shai'tan does.

But he also has other priorities. One of which being the conversion of the Dragon... and Ishy opening gateways to bleed the planet dry (whether this is a legitimate option or not, I will not address) would not allow this other goal.

Shai'tan doesn't reason like a human - he's an alien entity (in the 'utter-and-completely-foreign-to-our-understanding' manner, not the 'from-another-planet' manner). His goals appear convoluted and even illogical to us... to him, it may be MORE important to convert the Dragon than even to break free!

As followers of Shai'tan, the Forsaken know that if they go too far against his will (especially his primary goals)... they have an eternity of suffering to look forward to. If the DO doesn't want the oceans evaporated into space, it ain't gonna happen.
Former wotmaniac Rand al`Thor, 2001-2009. RIP wotmania...
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If the Forsaken really wanted to defeat the Light - gateways at the bottom of the ocean... - 20/11/2009 02:02:59 PM 1930 Views
I've actually thought that would be a great way to make a power plant. - 20/11/2009 02:48:21 PM 923 Views
I t doesn't defy EXACTLY the laws of conservation - 20/11/2009 03:02:16 PM 1252 Views
The Forsaken don't think like that - 20/11/2009 02:57:27 PM 964 Views
What in the world... outer space?? This is fantasy, not sci-fi *NM* - 20/11/2009 03:08:26 PM 471 Views
RJ has stated that channelers can Travel to other planets, even other solar systems... - 20/11/2009 03:12:37 PM 850 Views
OK... - 20/11/2009 05:15:32 PM 809 Views
Tied off gateways dissappear after a while *NM* - 20/11/2009 03:15:56 PM 427 Views
No. Only if the knott is deliberately tied loosely... - 20/11/2009 03:20:18 PM 788 Views
This brings up an "Evil Wins, What Next?" scenario I've always wondered about - 20/11/2009 03:39:14 PM 921 Views
Nah - 20/11/2009 04:12:27 PM 794 Views
Read Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. =) *NM* - 20/11/2009 07:18:01 PM 455 Views
They would have to know the bottom of the ocean very well to create. *NM* - 20/11/2009 05:02:50 PM 389 Views
Wouldn't be too hard, given Rand's trick. *NM* - 20/11/2009 05:12:22 PM 445 Views
You're kidding right? - 20/11/2009 05:31:36 PM 811 Views
Yeah, this has actually been discussed - 20/11/2009 05:50:21 PM 1023 Views
Re: Yeah, this has actually been discussed - 21/08/2010 02:19:15 AM 816 Views
Gateway "magic" accounts for this, or most gateways would have STRONG breeze - 20/11/2009 06:43:44 PM 896 Views
Very conducive places, the bottom of the sea and outer space... - 20/11/2009 07:01:56 PM 4274 Views
Knee jerk disagreement without thinking beyond: "I don't like the idea so let's flame it..." - 20/11/2009 07:12:38 PM 1049 Views
Actually... - 20/11/2009 09:15:39 PM 881 Views
And your response is even sillier ideas? Think for more than three minutes before responding again. - 20/11/2009 11:08:59 PM 810 Views
I must say... this has been highly entertaining! *NM* - 21/11/2009 01:59:51 AM 792 Views
Yeah... I've been chuckling at this whole thread - 21/11/2009 10:23:51 AM 922 Views
You need to go read FoH again... - 21/11/2009 03:35:01 AM 930 Views
The Silliness Continues-Part IV of Shannow's crazy ways to commit suicide... - 21/11/2009 05:44:34 AM 811 Views
Struggling a bit are you? - 21/11/2009 06:30:13 AM 859 Views
On the limits of power - 21/11/2009 07:32:44 AM 860 Views
Great question. These fundamental issues are the REAL challenges to be overcome, yes... - 21/11/2009 07:50:46 AM 833 Views
Thanks - 21/11/2009 08:03:28 AM 862 Views
Oh, and regarding the new Travelling skill Nynaeve mentions in tGS... - 21/11/2009 08:03:45 AM 872 Views
Ah, thanks - 21/11/2009 08:10:48 AM 802 Views
Actually, I just reread that passage, and now I'm confused again... - 21/11/2009 08:30:17 AM 825 Views
Its pretty simple... - 21/11/2009 08:07:14 PM 782 Views
You don't learn a place when you Travel TO it... - 21/11/2009 08:23:11 PM 818 Views
The same issue again... - 21/11/2009 08:58:37 PM 794 Views
No, you're wrong, and here are the quotes... - 22/11/2009 06:51:06 AM 988 Views
That might mean nothing... - 22/11/2009 06:37:33 PM 897 Views
That does seem inconsistent... - 21/11/2009 09:25:52 PM 1048 Views
Since Shannow seems to think disagreeing with him is EVIL... - 21/11/2009 08:38:55 PM 838 Views
Re: On the limits of power - 20/08/2010 06:25:19 PM 797 Views
Such a geek - 20/08/2010 08:08:11 PM 1001 Views
The One Power is completely impenetrable to regular matter - 21/11/2009 08:16:58 AM 777 Views
Balefire is much, much easier . - 20/11/2009 08:50:24 PM 816 Views
The Forsaken DON'T want to defeat the Light. - 20/11/2009 09:18:42 PM 914 Views
Why didn't Frodo and Sam just ride the Eagles to Mt. Doom, and toss the Ring then fly back? *NM* - 20/11/2009 10:35:17 PM 431 Views
lol Straight from www.HowMoviesShouldHaveEnded.com *NM* - 21/11/2009 01:15:45 AM 404 Views
The Forsaken are still doing the Light's will. - 21/11/2009 01:42:16 AM 795 Views
Actually here's an even simpler idea: open a gateway into a Black Hole. *NM* - 21/11/2009 01:53:38 AM 513 Views
You can't...there aren't any Black Holes close enough... - 21/11/2009 03:22:38 AM 828 Views
Doubtful - 21/11/2009 03:29:35 AM 781 Views
Let me clarify...you CAN Travel to other solar system... - 21/11/2009 03:39:36 AM 867 Views
You're right, I just went back and checked the sources - 24/11/2009 12:04:09 AM 775 Views
Surely Moridin could channel enough of the True Power... *NM* - 21/11/2009 01:19:05 PM 365 Views
Moridin cannot channel any more of the True Power than he can of the One Power. - 21/11/2009 01:58:30 PM 757 Views
He managed to do great fits with the power he had. - 21/11/2009 05:12:52 PM 744 Views

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