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True to a degree Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM
I mean, yes - Galina, Liandrin, Lanfear, Moggy and now Elaida have all had their comeuppance (Galina's in particular was so bad I almost felt sorry for her - it actually made Faile's part worth reading).

But others have just been balefired, or outright killed. But Semirhage needed to be broken, so that she could be used and discarded by the DO. In fact, her defeat wasn't that different to the other women. They were all broken just the same. I wonder if we'll see something similar happen to any males? (Taim, Demandred, Moridin?)

What I'm wondering now is if she gave anything away, and how useful that information would be.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3061 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1560 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1472 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 667 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1260 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1169 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 559 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1278 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1251 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1178 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1142 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1228 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1073 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1042 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 605 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1035 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1055 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 991 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1169 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1222 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1069 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1134 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 531 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1114 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1025 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1120 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1039 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1087 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 1000 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1149 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1129 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1275 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 602 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1219 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 652 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1081 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1095 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1156 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1099 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1033 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1050 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1083 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1074 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1121 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1031 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1142 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 967 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1015 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1103 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1020 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1002 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 981 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1068 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 864 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1140 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 598 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1114 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1184 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1008 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 596 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1145 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 686 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1194 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1024 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1040 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1061 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 905 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 990 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1021 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1130 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1165 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1077 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1061 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1068 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1063 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1138 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 984 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1038 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 978 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1034 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8359 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1015 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1111 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1330 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 958 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1114 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1123 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1069 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1311 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1025 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 897 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1158 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1018 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1226 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1074 Views
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