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No. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM
A villain who takes power from pain is hardly suspenseful at all. In fact, Semirhage was quite predictable (and pretty dumb, given KoD's events).

What tGS showed was that aside from Moridin, the "chosen" are exactly as Verin described - selfish, arrogant children.

The REAL suspense comes not from the cardboard villains, but from the should-be heroes. Rand al'Thor nearly destroying the Borderlander army is far, far scarier than Semi ever was. And when he strangles Min, and then nearly kills Tam - well, honestly, is there any fear more deep-seated than that of loved ones turning on us?
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3057 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1556 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1466 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 667 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1255 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1161 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 558 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1274 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1246 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1174 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1139 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1224 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1068 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1039 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 604 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1031 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1051 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 987 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1165 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1219 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1065 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1130 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 531 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1110 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1021 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1117 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1033 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1084 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 996 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1147 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1128 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1270 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 602 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1217 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 651 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1078 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1090 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1155 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1097 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1026 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1047 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1079 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1068 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1120 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1025 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1141 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 962 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1013 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1100 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1015 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1000 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 979 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1065 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 861 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1133 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 598 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1108 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1180 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1004 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 594 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1136 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 685 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1189 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1021 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1037 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1056 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 900 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 985 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1018 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1127 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1160 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1073 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1058 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1063 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1059 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1136 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 980 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1034 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 974 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1030 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8356 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1012 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1106 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1326 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 955 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1111 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1119 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1067 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1308 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1023 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 894 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1155 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1016 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1224 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1070 Views
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