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There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM
For example, Semi could have simply been a bit pissed at her treatment- a tightening of her lips, a glint in her eye, but not her pathetic raving.

Or she could have not raved, and then later on she could have fended off Rand for a small amount of time, and tried to run away. Rand would have stalked after her, filled with the True Power. She'd be cowering in fear, and finally start to beg for her life since she knew Rand would use balefire. Then Rand would emotionlessly kill her.

Or she could have not been so idiotic as to try to trap Rand in the first place with almost no support.

Or Semi could have freaked out Cadsuane- that'd be believable, they're both feared figures, if Semi can break, theoretically so could Cadsuane.



And that's just the off-the-cuff ideas of a guy at 3am.

My point is saying that the Semi plot was good because it was "moral" and "logical" is ridiculous. The first is completely irrelevant considering the grand scope of the series, and the second is just wrong.
I amuse myself.
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Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Shannow - 19/11/2009 09:58:19 PM 3060 Views
The two of you are pathetic Cannoli - 19/11/2009 10:09:34 PM 1558 Views
Your problem is... Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:21:40 PM 1469 Views
Well said. It takes something away from the story. *NM* Narg - 19/11/2009 10:34:41 PM 667 Views
No. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:15:32 AM 1258 Views
And now he's not "blind" anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:20:56 AM 1167 Views
*Cough* MoridinDemandredTaim *Cough* *NM* Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:16:14 PM 558 Views
*cough* philosopherguywhosdonenothingcrazyperson *cough* beetnemesis - 22/11/2009 05:19:20 PM 1277 Views
Well said. Compare her to, say, Mogheidan. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:17:57 AM 1250 Views
True to a degree Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:26:20 AM 1177 Views
There's a little more to it as well Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 08:51:03 AM 1142 Views
You know, I agree BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:12:49 PM 1227 Views
But she gave us a clue as to how she might be broken. Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:17:04 AM 1072 Views
I would love to see tSR and tFoH from Moiraine's perspective beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:22:55 AM 1041 Views
I imagine it took A LOT of frustration and anger management. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:27:13 AM 604 Views
I don't think Moiraine became meek at all MightyYT - 20/11/2009 11:06:05 AM 1035 Views
That's what I meant, actually beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:44:26 AM 1055 Views
I don't think Rand will do it, though BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:10:27 AM 991 Views
Re: You know, I agree Evil_Monkey - 09/05/2010 09:08:58 PM 1169 Views
I agree with Cannoli completely. (Did I just say that?) Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:18:09 PM 1222 Views
And I agree with Rand al'Thor. Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:35:55 PM 1068 Views
And I agree with Fanatic-Templar. Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:40:26 PM 1133 Views
Ditto *NM* echooff - 21/06/2010 01:15:04 PM 531 Views
I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 07:40:31 AM 1114 Views
WoT isn't pure fantasy - it's humans within a fantasy world Lord Haart - 20/11/2009 08:20:23 AM 1024 Views
Oh, totally- but humans can act in more than one way. "Real" humans can be terrifying, too! beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:33:53 AM 1119 Views
I'm pretty sure that AS are meant to be a parable for the government... Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:20:14 PM 1037 Views
And also BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:08:39 AM 1086 Views
Actually, it did, but it didn't care about him at all. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:21:02 PM 999 Views
Re: I didn't like it for the same reason I don't like the Aes Sedai much anymore p hart - 08/05/2010 12:46:31 AM 1149 Views
Re: The two of you are pathetic p hart - 08/05/2010 12:05:51 AM 1129 Views
personally, I loved the scene kcf - 19/11/2009 10:10:44 PM 1273 Views
Agreed. I thought it worked. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 10:40:04 PM 602 Views
Are you feeling all right? If you are, Cannoli is right, and you're pathetic. fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:18:54 PM 1218 Views
See my response to Cannoli. *NM* Shannow - 19/11/2009 10:25:15 PM 651 Views
That was barely a response... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:43:07 AM 1081 Views
There's always more than one way for a story to "logically" progress beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:07:44 AM 1095 Views
Re: That was barely a response... p hart - 08/05/2010 12:24:55 AM 1156 Views
Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:01:17 AM 1099 Views
On the other hand BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 11:13:54 AM 1030 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:50:07 PM 1049 Views
Yeah, Semi never got much screentime beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:47:27 AM 1082 Views
Re: Yeah, Semi never got much screentime Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:09:26 AM 1072 Views
Re: Evil IS cool! This is storytelling, not a morality play. p hart - 08/05/2010 01:17:07 AM 1121 Views
Oh, they're quite good at killing people. Fanatic-Templar - 08/05/2010 06:47:35 AM 1030 Views
Re: Oh, they're quite good at killing people. p hart - 09/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 1142 Views
Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 09/05/2010 06:32:22 PM 965 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:15:19 AM 1015 Views
Re: Actually, it's why they're still alive. Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:32:25 AM 1103 Views
Are they? Why are Mat, Perrin and the Wondergirls still alive? Lohikaarme - 13/05/2010 12:47:57 AM 1019 Views
Nobody's even tried to kill them since Ishamael died, until he gave the order again in KoD. Fanatic-Templar - 13/05/2010 01:13:02 AM 1002 Views
It'd be harder to kill them now as they have come into their own power p hart - 21/06/2010 01:18:31 AM 981 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 21/06/2010 01:34:51 AM 1068 Views
If they're good at killing people Lohikaarme - 06/07/2010 10:00:41 PM 864 Views
I loved that scene - it's actually dog-eared because it's one of my favorites. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:37:33 PM 1137 Views
exactly *NM* AgentOrange - 19/11/2009 11:06:48 PM 598 Views
Really liked her complaints about the food Wotmaniac Reborn - 20/11/2009 10:42:57 PM 1111 Views
I'd love to see Mat spanking Caddy as he did Joline Skeeve the Great - 19/11/2009 10:48:21 PM 1183 Views
I'd like to see that too . Fanatic-Templar - 19/11/2009 11:40:26 PM 1007 Views
I actually think Mat needs a spanking. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 10:23:46 PM 595 Views
I had no problem with the spanking... vandevere - 19/11/2009 11:07:07 PM 1141 Views
Best news I've heard all day *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:09:49 PM 685 Views
Actually... what happened to Semirhage was BEAUTIFUL. Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 11:28:29 PM 1191 Views
I agree with your second half beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:27:07 AM 1024 Views
The Forsaken aren't lame, they just aren't that special AgentOrange - 20/11/2009 12:30:51 PM 1040 Views
Their lack of special-ness has made them become lame villians beetnemesis - 21/11/2009 03:50:50 AM 1059 Views
She is dead to me! Sandwich - 20/11/2009 12:25:42 AM 904 Views
I agree with Cannoli and Fionwe's on the best way to handle Semirhage Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:17:41 AM 989 Views
Book 14 you think Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:55:29 AM 1021 Views
So would you enjoy seeing Moridin pulled over Cadsuane's knee and spanked? Shannow - 20/11/2009 07:48:45 AM 1129 Views
You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. Sidious - 20/11/2009 03:05:50 PM 1163 Views
Don't avoid the question... Shannow - 20/11/2009 03:27:23 PM 1076 Views
I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is Sidious - 20/11/2009 04:50:17 PM 1060 Views
Hehe... Shannow - 20/11/2009 05:25:56 PM 1066 Views
Re: Hehe... Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:44:06 AM 1062 Views
Re: I'm not avoiding anything, just pointing out how silly this post is p hart - 08/05/2010 01:07:13 AM 1138 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 20/11/2009 10:36:36 PM 983 Views
Hey now... imagine how Balthamel's fans feel BlackAdder - 21/11/2009 02:21:48 AM 1036 Views
I think Aginor was the worst. Fanatic-Templar - 21/11/2009 04:10:51 AM 976 Views
Re: Sidious - 21/11/2009 10:26:53 AM 1033 Views
Re: You're upset about the spanking and have missed the reason for it. p hart - 08/05/2010 12:58:52 AM 8358 Views
The thing that bothers me is that you're right beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:10:44 AM 1015 Views
Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Lord Haart - 21/11/2009 06:30:26 PM 1110 Views
Re: Except that Demandred is the one Darksider who knows about Elayne Sidious - 22/11/2009 10:13:44 AM 1329 Views
He was dispatched 'fairly easily' because he was betrayed by Moridin . Fanatic-Templar - 22/11/2009 08:09:38 PM 957 Views
I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and why they sold out everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:21:36 AM 1114 Views
The weird thing is, (or maybe not so weird), that I feel like she suffered the same way in tGS beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 08:36:45 AM 1122 Views
Re: I think it was an excellent look at just how pathetic most of the Forsaken are and p hart - 08/05/2010 12:13:20 AM 1068 Views
because thats what sadists are! nigelgoboom - 20/11/2009 04:03:31 PM 1311 Views
How many people p hart - 08/05/2010 12:30:17 AM 1024 Views
At least two. Kaldric - 10/05/2010 02:10:31 PM 896 Views
Re: At least two. p hart - 21/06/2010 01:24:53 AM 1157 Views
Shame has traditionally been one of the greatest ways of enforcing public order Rurouni_Kenshin - 21/06/2010 02:55:54 AM 1018 Views
Re: Semirhage vs Cadsuane - in Sanderson's words... Demortae - 29/06/2010 10:29:51 PM 1226 Views
Cadsuane was brilliant in that scene. The Angry Druid - 02/07/2010 12:41:06 AM 1073 Views
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