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The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels) BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 08:07:50 PM
Two things come to mind, that I don't think the Rebels/Egwenists/War Hawks can defend.

1. Did Egwene and the Rebels cause Elaida's downfall?

2. Did Egwene and the Rebels expedite Elaida's downfall?

I don't see any way that anyone can truthfully answer "yes" to either question.

For 1) I think it is is a mix of Elaida's own undoing and ultimately the Seanchan death blow.
For 2) there is nothing. Nothing that Egwene and the Rebels did caused sped up the process in any way.

So... what exactly did the whole side-plot accomplish? Even if Egwene and the Rebels had just went along and conceded, Elaida would still have been captured in her sleep, at exactly the same moment.

Seems like a rather lengthy aside to to put a specific person (Egwene) on the Amyrlin's Seat.
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I take it that was a reply to BlackAdder... *NM* - 19/11/2009 09:04:32 PM 199 Views
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Right. Even if that does not answer his question. *NM* - 19/11/2009 10:11:21 PM 172 Views
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Couldn't be more wrong - delete this evidence-less thread - 21/11/2009 06:36:35 PM 443 Views
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Re: The more I think about it (Egwene and the Rebels) - 01/12/2009 01:42:13 AM 561 Views
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Wow... - 01/12/2009 11:37:27 PM 436 Views
Egwene could've done most of what she did without screentime. *NM* - 19/12/2009 07:30:14 PM 171 Views

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