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Portal stone, maybe. *NM* BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 19/11/2009 07:38:32 PM
Elayne seems like the best choice; she's pregnant and can't channel strongly, and can be taken quite easily now that the number of Sisters around her has diminished.

Egwene is another candidate - there are 20 Black Ajah members with Dream ter'angreal now. It seems so easy to lie in wait for her in Tel'Aran'Rhiod and kidnap her mind. I wonder if the 13 + 13 trick would work on a mind from T'A'R even if the body is not in the Dreamworld in the flesh.


Can Myrrdraal even enter it?


According to Lanfear:

“I serve,” she said quickly. “I have served the Lord of the Twilight long. Long did I lie imprisoned for my service, in an endless, dreamless sleep. Only Gray Men and Myrddraal are denied dreams. Even Trollocs can dream. Dreams were always mine, to use and walk. Now I am free again, and I will use what is mine.”

If Myrddraal can't dream, and they can't go through a Gateway, I don't see how they can enter TAR.
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Why haven't we seen anyone been turned by 13 channelers channeling through 13 Fades? beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:49:29 PM 1234 Views
Re: Why haven't we seen anyone been turned by 13 channelers channeling through 13 Fades? randfandom - 19/11/2009 05:52:13 PM 772 Views
BS implied the 13+13 trick might play a role in the next books... Etzel - 19/11/2009 05:57:41 PM 811 Views
I think Tuon might be another interesting candidate. *NM* RandAllThor - 19/11/2009 06:50:51 PM 341 Views
I'm not sure she can get more evil and unlikeable though. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 08:15:52 PM 294 Views
Can she be seen as a Channeler? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 19/11/2009 09:39:30 PM 282 Views
Candidates and reasons for turning... Rand al'Thor - 19/11/2009 06:57:40 PM 777 Views
Speaking of Lord o' Salv - 20/11/2009 04:50:12 AM 717 Views
In Tear. Rand spends about two sentences thinking about her in tGS. *NM* Galad - 21/11/2009 09:32:09 AM 308 Views
I'm not so much hoping to see it happen... but I wouldn't mind if we find out it HAD happened. TaskmasterJack - 19/11/2009 06:03:39 PM 656 Views
Yeah, I agree beetnemesis - 20/11/2009 04:45:47 PM 688 Views
I think they'll try to do this to Egwene or Elayne RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 06:53:46 PM 677 Views
Can they do it in TAR? BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:23:12 PM 658 Views
I doubt it. Light in the Night - 19/11/2009 07:34:26 PM 637 Views
Portal stone, maybe. *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 07:38:32 PM 602 Views
I don't think it would work Ryan - 19/11/2009 08:37:38 PM 606 Views
They could get around that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:42:24 PM 637 Views
yo, Lighty! is there somewhere I could find your Longest Theory now that wotmania's down? *NM* Velveti - 20/11/2009 12:24:38 AM 287 Views
Re: yo, Lighty! is there somewhere I could find your Longest Theory now that wotmania's down? Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 06:58:21 AM 643 Views
Done and done. *NM* Velveti - 21/11/2009 05:30:02 PM 284 Views
We've seen them do it guttering flame - 21/11/2009 09:47:55 AM 837 Views
The BA wouldn't last for more than munites against Egwene in TAR. *NM* fionwe1987 - 19/11/2009 10:14:36 PM 296 Views
Lead by Moridin, Cyndane or Moghedien, they could. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 19/11/2009 10:40:16 PM 668 Views
That's a whole other deal, of course. But the BA alone stand no chance. *NM* fionwe1987 - 20/11/2009 12:46:29 AM 299 Views
Yeah, if Katerine is that useless in RL, imagine how useless she would be in TAR! *NM* BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 11:20:17 PM 332 Views
She escaped an Aiel camp by poisoning one guard and slitting another's throat, so I like her. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/11/2009 04:21:37 PM 694 Views
she had to have help kcf - 20/11/2009 04:48:08 PM 648 Views
That doesn't really count, does it? BlackAdder - 20/11/2009 05:10:06 PM 726 Views
Selfishness Taer - 19/11/2009 09:19:35 PM 713 Views
According to Verin BlackAdder - 19/11/2009 09:45:08 PM 794 Views
Brandon kinda sorta told me we'll see this in ToM kcf - 19/11/2009 10:18:23 PM 728 Views
I always thought Taim was turned that way. Tom - 20/11/2009 12:22:08 AM 730 Views
I think he's the fan favorite for that process. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 20/11/2009 02:27:06 AM 274 Views
Either that or he turned to the dark when he realized what he was. krassos - 20/11/2009 02:46:09 AM 636 Views
I've always seen Taim as a present day Demandred Light in the Night - 20/11/2009 07:05:33 AM 674 Views
there was talk at the 13dipository HoratioBoobles - 20/11/2009 02:30:13 AM 709 Views
I'd like to see them corner Mat and right when they get ready to do it... everynametaken - 20/11/2009 04:08:44 AM 667 Views
Mat cant channel so he cant be turned *NM* Nargs - 20/11/2009 06:34:58 AM 284 Views
I thought they could turn anyone in that way? Guess not. *NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2009 12:38:02 AM 291 Views
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