Thank you Ken for the report. You aren't pulling our leg are you?
Logain Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 11:11:48 PM
It would be a fine joke if you were pulling our legs with the report. I've been fearful that sort of thing would happen at least once. Are you pulling our leg?
Anyway, the one power strength quotes were these:
Q: How does Nynaeve compare with Semirhage in OP strength?
A: I’m pretty sure she’s stronger, but they are very close. RJ has a list of all the channeler’s strengths. On that list, only 6 people are stronger than Nynaeve. It’s such a rare event that pretty much anytime we meet someone stronger than her, it’s explicitly said. There are two OP strength scales – an ‘old’ and a ‘new’. Nynaeve was the top of the female list for the ‘old’ list. Six are stronger on the ‘new’ list.
Brandon was pretty certain that Nynaeve is stronger than Mesaana, who isn’t particularly strong in forsaken terms.
Brandon was very open and willing to talk about this issue – people who care about these things should ask at every opportunity.
Taken in context, the "she" and "her" probably refer to Nynaeve, don't you agree?
Another thing to think about is whether the "new" list compares Nynaeve's current strength or Nynaeve's potential strength. That could change things in the discussion.
Your comments about Mesaana are interesting. Brandon seems to imply that it's almost as if the Forsaken have a different measuring stick to go by. Because many of the Forsaken are extremely strong, then Mesaana can look weak next to them. The way Brandon worded it, it still appears to be true that Mesaana is stronger than most regular Aes Sedai.
Something else to consider. I wonder if Brandon was distinguishing between quantity of one power that can be channeled, and overall "power." If "power" is measured by both quantity and skill, then that could change rankings as well. Anyway, I find your report to be really great. Thanks.
And then a little later you reported:
Q: Where did Cyndane’s new body come from?
A: Where have any of the new bodies come from? He then mentioned that it’s not confirmed who Cyndane is, though he didn’t refute me when we all said that it’s pretty certain.
I asked about her strength in the OP – Brandon says she’s very, very weak. This surprised me since I didn’t think she was that weak.
Did Brandon just say that Cyndane was very very weak (in general) or was he comparing Cyndane to her former self of Lanfear? In context the discussion first talked about Lanfear and then compared Cyndane to Lanfear. Maybe Brandon meant Cyndane is weak compared to Lanfear?
I have two other ideas on this. I'll start a new thread though for those.
Anyway, the one power strength quotes were these:
Q: How does Nynaeve compare with Semirhage in OP strength?
A: I’m pretty sure she’s stronger, but they are very close. RJ has a list of all the channeler’s strengths. On that list, only 6 people are stronger than Nynaeve. It’s such a rare event that pretty much anytime we meet someone stronger than her, it’s explicitly said. There are two OP strength scales – an ‘old’ and a ‘new’. Nynaeve was the top of the female list for the ‘old’ list. Six are stronger on the ‘new’ list.
Brandon was pretty certain that Nynaeve is stronger than Mesaana, who isn’t particularly strong in forsaken terms.
Brandon was very open and willing to talk about this issue – people who care about these things should ask at every opportunity.
Taken in context, the "she" and "her" probably refer to Nynaeve, don't you agree?
Another thing to think about is whether the "new" list compares Nynaeve's current strength or Nynaeve's potential strength. That could change things in the discussion.
Your comments about Mesaana are interesting. Brandon seems to imply that it's almost as if the Forsaken have a different measuring stick to go by. Because many of the Forsaken are extremely strong, then Mesaana can look weak next to them. The way Brandon worded it, it still appears to be true that Mesaana is stronger than most regular Aes Sedai.
Something else to consider. I wonder if Brandon was distinguishing between quantity of one power that can be channeled, and overall "power." If "power" is measured by both quantity and skill, then that could change rankings as well. Anyway, I find your report to be really great. Thanks.
And then a little later you reported:
Q: Where did Cyndane’s new body come from?
A: Where have any of the new bodies come from? He then mentioned that it’s not confirmed who Cyndane is, though he didn’t refute me when we all said that it’s pretty certain.
I asked about her strength in the OP – Brandon says she’s very, very weak. This surprised me since I didn’t think she was that weak.
Did Brandon just say that Cyndane was very very weak (in general) or was he comparing Cyndane to her former self of Lanfear? In context the discussion first talked about Lanfear and then compared Cyndane to Lanfear. Maybe Brandon meant Cyndane is weak compared to Lanfear?
I have two other ideas on this. I'll start a new thread though for those.
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17/11/2009 04:23:32 PM
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Cyndane is "very, very weak"?!
17/11/2009 04:41:32 PM
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I asked Brandon to clarify last night in Pasadena about Cyndane
18/11/2009 05:22:14 PM
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Do you realise what this means! We now have a clear strength list among the female Forsaken...
18/11/2009 05:42:51 PM
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That means, though
18/11/2009 05:48:15 PM
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I've started a new thread, giving the new, DEFINITIVE female Forsaken strength list. Yay!!! *NM*
18/11/2009 05:58:03 PM
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Re: Do you realise what this means! We now have a clear strength list among the female Forsaken...
18/11/2009 09:27:06 PM
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I apparently have to Log In to read this.
17/11/2009 05:33:03 PM
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You don't need the email confirmation!
17/11/2009 05:36:40 PM
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Hm. I could have sworn I saw something about an email confirmation. Thanks. *NM*
17/11/2009 05:38:14 PM
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The strength comparisons don't make sense...
17/11/2009 06:26:05 PM
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Re: The strength comparisons don't make sense...
17/11/2009 06:55:39 PM
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If you read it in context, the list he is referring to is a female list...
17/11/2009 07:41:18 PM
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I don't think...
17/11/2009 07:48:36 PM
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How do we explain BS stating that he is "pretty sure Nynaeve is stronger than Semirhage?"
17/11/2009 07:51:39 PM
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forgetting Cyndane, it does
17/11/2009 08:56:16 PM
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No Forsaken knew, when the Cleansing would happen...
17/11/2009 09:43:04 PM
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Re: No Forsaken knew, when the Cleansing would happen...
17/11/2009 09:48:31 PM
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Talaan and Someryn are pure guesses from Dom...
17/11/2009 10:06:56 PM
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Elayne at the beginning of PoD thinks Talaan is at least as great as Nyn
18/11/2009 12:23:31 AM
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Thanks Ken!
17/11/2009 07:07:03 PM
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It almost has to be Justice
17/11/2009 07:30:32 PM
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But here's the thing....
17/11/2009 10:27:55 PM
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I think the clues still point to it being Justice
17/11/2009 10:37:44 PM
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I was just making argument
17/11/2009 11:05:18 PM
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Guaire Amalasan!
18/11/2009 12:50:09 AM
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Maybe Hawkwing took Justice from Amalasan after the Battle of the Jolvaine Pass?
18/11/2009 02:09:03 AM
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That was the crazy part - I named him as one of LitN's "other channelers producing weapons".
18/11/2009 02:17:25 AM
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And I appreciate your arguments!
18/11/2009 08:49:55 AM
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Perhaps it's a "Sword for the Ages"
18/11/2009 09:26:00 AM
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Thank you Ken for the report. You aren't pulling our leg are you?
17/11/2009 11:11:48 PM
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Re: Thank you Ken for the report. You aren't pulling our leg are you?
17/11/2009 11:26:30 PM
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Who is the Aiel chick with all the one power strength? I forget who, but she is Shaido. *NM*
17/11/2009 11:34:42 PM
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One of the women stronger than Nynaeve is probably a Sharan
17/11/2009 11:53:12 PM
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don't read too much into this
18/11/2009 12:00:19 AM
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It could be true
18/11/2009 02:14:50 AM
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This is RJ's Wheel of Time we're talking about. Not David Eddings. *NM*
18/11/2009 02:18:08 AM
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