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No Forsaken knew, when the Cleansing would happen... Etzel Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 09:43:04 PM
How can Cyndane be very, very weak in the Power?

And is he sure or not sure about the Semirahge vs Nynaeve strength comparison? Why does he say "he is pretty sure Nynaeve is stronger?" Either she is or she isn't.

Also, who are the six women stronger than Nynaeve then, if Semirhage isn't one of them?

I wonder if he knows what he's talking about. I think BS needs to have a good look at that strength list of RJ's before guessing about these things.

On Cyndane, I asked specifically if she was on the list that was higher than Nynaeve and he said no and went on to describe her as a very weak channeler - very explicitly. This doesn't make much sense to me either and I hope we get it clarified. What this may indicate is that she is shielded in some way similar to the way Asmodean was, but at the cleansing, the shield was lessened or released so she could fight effectively.


And we have Cyndane's PoV immediately before the Cleansing starts. Nothing suggests then that a shield was released or something like this. IIRC, also Graendal remarks in PoD that Cyndane is super strong.

And yes, the list he refers to is for women. From Dom at 13th Depository, it's likely that the 6 women ahead of Nynaeve are Alivia, Lanfear/Cyndane, Graendal, Sharina, Talaan and Someryn. With Semirhage just below her - he was pretty sure just not certain. And he stressed that Nynaeve and Semi are very close in strength. He was much more certain that Mesaana is lower than Nynaeve in strength - I didn't ask about Moghedien because it was pretty clear before now that she's lower. It's no real suprise that he doesn't have this info on the tip of his fingers - it really is a pretty minor detail among all that he needs to be keeping strait.


Either Cyndane is very weak, as you said BS seems to believe, then she wouldn't be among the 6 top women, or she is only somewhat weaker than Lanfear (as we all always thought), tean it's very likely that she is above Nynaeve.

Are there actual quotes on Sharina and Someryn to support it, or is it just an educated guess?
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