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Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM
The main reason that so many different groups were shown in the series is that RJ was trying to make his world look realistic. If everyone was selfless and noble and willing to sacrafice for the greater good how interesting a book would that be. Hell the series would probably have ended by Book 2 as the combined nations armies and the Seanchan advance guard marched on the blight.

No group except possibly the Shadow are 100% either good or bad. Rand has made mistakes. The Aiel are kick ass warriors but do they ever hold a grudge against the people of Cairhien, most of whome were not consulted by their king before he cut down the tree and quite a few were not even alive at the time.

The Tairain High Lords are arrogant tyrants but their land is orderly if oppressed. Andor is showed mostly in a good light but they are willing to destroy an entire generation to attack a borderland army that has been keeping the world safe for years from the Shadowspawn just because they did not ask for permission to go south. The list could go on.

The Aes Sedai are high handed, think they are the most important group in the world, plot and scheme but consider this. They have stopped wars in the world, they have kept alive knowledge of the Shadow. One of them saved the world by finding the dragon reborn before the shadow. They are a centre of learning and while their methods can leave a lot to be desired the average Aes Sedai's heart is in the right place.
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1332 Views
They are politicians at heart... - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 895 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 449 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 316 Views
Short answer: nope. - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 842 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 662 Views
rather.. - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 781 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 690 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 680 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 601 Views
But then.. - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 716 Views
Kind of Sort of - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 653 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 615 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 2051 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1422 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 682 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 602 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 834 Views
You're asking the wrong question - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 670 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 630 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 390 Views
Scored using your words - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 765 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 615 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 309 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 377 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 650 Views
They reduced her in power. - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 574 Views
So? - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 601 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 548 Views
Have you read the books? - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 592 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 596 Views
So? - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 631 Views
Oh dear! - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 560 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 523 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 718 Views
This is silly - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 564 Views
There is no misrepresentation - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 580 Views
The point I made is - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 564 Views
Are we speaking english? - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 773 Views
Not really - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 651 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 701 Views
OK - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 634 Views
No idea - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 610 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 736 Views
Well what do you think of - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 844 Views
And another point - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 542 Views
For the sake of argument, though - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 606 Views
OK fair enough - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 592 Views
- 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 712 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 561 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 284 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 583 Views
Yeah right... - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 538 Views
Yes, seriously - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 646 Views

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