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Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims Watcher Send a noteboard - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM
The main reason that so many different groups were shown in the series is that RJ was trying to make his world look realistic. If everyone was selfless and noble and willing to sacrafice for the greater good how interesting a book would that be. Hell the series would probably have ended by Book 2 as the combined nations armies and the Seanchan advance guard marched on the blight.

No group except possibly the Shadow are 100% either good or bad. Rand has made mistakes. The Aiel are kick ass warriors but do they ever hold a grudge against the people of Cairhien, most of whome were not consulted by their king before he cut down the tree and quite a few were not even alive at the time.

The Tairain High Lords are arrogant tyrants but their land is orderly if oppressed. Andor is showed mostly in a good light but they are willing to destroy an entire generation to attack a borderland army that has been keeping the world safe for years from the Shadowspawn just because they did not ask for permission to go south. The list could go on.

The Aes Sedai are high handed, think they are the most important group in the world, plot and scheme but consider this. They have stopped wars in the world, they have kept alive knowledge of the Shadow. One of them saved the world by finding the dragon reborn before the shadow. They are a centre of learning and while their methods can leave a lot to be desired the average Aes Sedai's heart is in the right place.
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Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 17/11/2009 05:18:52 AM 1256 Views
They are politicians at heart... - 17/11/2009 05:31:41 AM 791 Views
You remember Moiraine, right? And Cadsuane? *NM* - 17/11/2009 05:32:50 AM 421 Views
That's individual AS, not AS as a group. *NM* - 17/11/2009 06:23:52 AM 280 Views
Short answer: nope. - 17/11/2009 05:51:01 AM 769 Views
Wonderful response, and I agree. - 17/11/2009 08:18:30 PM 577 Views
rather.. - 18/11/2009 08:32:10 AM 695 Views
Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. - 18/11/2009 05:04:58 PM 614 Views
Re: Hawkwing included AS until Ishmael got to him so that really not true. - 18/11/2009 09:16:04 PM 598 Views
Their Tower allegience was always superior to their Empire allegience but was Bonwhine - 23/11/2009 02:29:57 AM 529 Views
But then.. - 23/11/2009 08:30:37 AM 632 Views
Kind of Sort of - 17/11/2009 07:05:51 AM 582 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 17/11/2009 07:50:48 AM 533 Views
AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims - 17/11/2009 09:31:24 AM 1979 Views
Re: AS exist for you to question the purpose of all self-serving organizations making grand claims - 17/11/2009 12:44:35 PM 1355 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 17/11/2009 02:36:33 PM 610 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 19/11/2009 01:48:27 PM 532 Views
Re: Aes Sedai - question for the WoT experts..... - 19/11/2009 09:14:14 PM 749 Views
You're asking the wrong question - 17/11/2009 05:35:06 PM 597 Views
You could ask the exact same questions about the Ashaman, or the Aiel, or the SeaFolk, or any group - 18/11/2009 11:49:25 AM 554 Views
SeaFolk yes, Aiel or Ashamen no.....stupid reply.....try again if you would like. *NM* - 18/11/2009 05:56:54 PM 358 Views
Scored using your words - 18/11/2009 06:33:31 PM 685 Views
Slow down Professor.....the AS have killed 1 Forsaken..... - 18/11/2009 10:59:39 PM 530 Views
I think he's counting Nynaeve and Egwene *NM* - 18/11/2009 11:21:20 PM 279 Views
So who killed Lanfear? *NM* - 18/11/2009 11:59:27 PM 339 Views
You mean Lanfear/Cyndane.....nobody..... - 19/11/2009 12:04:10 AM 570 Views
They reduced her in power. - 19/11/2009 12:39:17 AM 500 Views
So? - 19/11/2009 01:33:56 AM 526 Views
So you've decided to redefine words now? - 19/11/2009 01:42:48 AM 469 Views
Have you read the books? - 19/11/2009 01:39:37 AM 515 Views
I will type more slowly.....the AS have killed 1 and only 1 Forsaken..... - 19/11/2009 04:00:59 AM 517 Views
So? - 19/11/2009 05:00:13 AM 557 Views
Oh dear! - 19/11/2009 11:51:17 AM 484 Views
Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... - 19/11/2009 03:04:44 PM 480 Views
Re: Read the new book.....as Rand points out.....no balefire, no death..... - 19/11/2009 03:11:36 PM 639 Views
This is silly - 19/11/2009 07:29:33 PM 513 Views
There is no misrepresentation - 19/11/2009 07:45:18 PM 513 Views
The point I made is - 19/11/2009 07:48:52 PM 483 Views
Are we speaking english? - 19/11/2009 08:07:45 PM 687 Views
Not really - 19/11/2009 08:19:49 PM 568 Views
Re: There is no misrepresentation - 19/11/2009 07:49:29 PM 626 Views
OK - 19/11/2009 08:15:08 PM 564 Views
No idea - 19/11/2009 08:17:09 PM 547 Views
OK fair enough, I do too, - 19/11/2009 08:31:11 PM 658 Views
Well what do you think of - 19/11/2009 08:56:38 PM 766 Views
And another point - 19/11/2009 03:05:45 PM 463 Views
For the sake of argument, though - 19/11/2009 03:49:23 PM 536 Views
OK fair enough - 19/11/2009 07:56:00 PM 512 Views
- 19/11/2009 12:06:02 AM 635 Views
There isn't much in this series I would call "filler" - seriously? - 19/11/2009 12:11:14 AM 480 Views
You're bothering to discuss a series with three books of "filler"- seriously? *NM* - 19/11/2009 01:34:43 AM 255 Views
Just skipped over them.....no big deal slick..... - 19/11/2009 04:02:57 AM 506 Views
Yeah right... - 19/11/2009 04:58:54 AM 465 Views
Yes, seriously - 20/11/2009 01:11:18 AM 569 Views

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