If you put Nynaeve at the same level as Semirhage, then it means that Alivia is considerably stronger than Semirhage. To me this is a problem.
If even the most powerful Forsaken are careful around Semirhage, then what does this say about their relation to Alivia?
Two things... One is that when Alivia vs. Nynaeve is considered, Nynaeve wasn't at peak strength (at least, we had no such indication). It was Reanne who made the comparison. Does Reanne even know how to measure a woman's potential? It could well be that her comparison was between Alivia and Nynaeve's current strength. And I think everyone only argues that Nynaeve's potential matches Semirhage's.
Second, wariness around Semi means nothing. LTT was weary of her, Graendal thinks well of her, Mesaana and Asmo have kittens over her. These people occupy different strength levels, but sho healthy respect for Semi.
It could be that her legendary torturing skills, as well as her general skill at channeling, are what make the other FS regard her as they do.
Frankly, I don't believe that Alivia is in the Lanfear range of Power. I don't find that plausible, given the comparative statistics of the two Ages we are talking about here.
Despite my earlier comment about Nynaeve and Alivia not being all that far apart, I do think Alivia is of the same strength as Lanfear.
Thing is, this Age is filled with mavericks who match and exceed the Second Agers in some things. We have to believe that Logain and Taim are merely a slight bit weaker than Rand, putting them in the Sammael-Demandred range. If we can believe that, if we can believe in the existence of Rand, who matches the strongest of the Second Age, why not a woman of Lanfear's strength? Especially since she is not any woman, but one whose destiny is bound with the Dragon Reborn's in a critical way?
Moreover, even if Alivia were only as strong as Cyndane, Nynaeve can still be as strong as Semirhage and Mesaana/ Semirhage and Graendal.
I believe Semirhage and Alivia are in the same strength bracket. And therefore, this makes it imperative that Nynaeve lies lower than Semirhage.
Sorry, but no go. With the number of men populating the very highest strengths on the light side, I find it exceedingly hard to belive that the strongest Lightsider woman is merely as strong as the second or third strongest Female Forsaken.
Nynaeve is not quaking in her boots about Semirhage like she used to about Alivia. She doesn't even seem that uncomfortable around Alivia in this book or KoD. I think, for thematic, as well as practical reasons, Nynaeve matches Semirhage, who is herself one of the most powerful Forsaken.
Semirhage's strength in the Power...
12/11/2009 06:57:37 AM
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No you did not...
12/11/2009 07:27:06 AM
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I'll look again tonight, but I'm sure Nynaeve made a comment...
12/11/2009 07:33:29 AM
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Actually, Nynaeave is far stronger than Moghedian now
12/11/2009 12:30:29 PM
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We DON'T know that Graendal is stronger than Semirhage and Mesaana...
12/11/2009 12:48:32 PM
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Inconsistency?
12/11/2009 08:53:39 AM
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Holding a shield vs. making one...
12/11/2009 03:19:09 PM
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Don't they clearly say one single would suffice but they used 2 for
13/11/2009 04:57:15 AM
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To HOLD her. Didn't I make the distinction clear?
13/11/2009 05:04:58 AM
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Reducing the number of people holding the shield, reduces the strength of the shield correspondingly
13/11/2009 07:15:24 AM
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Not necessarily true (Plus, another possibility)...
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I agree about the angreal, but not the 1 woman shield part...
13/11/2009 07:50:26 AM
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Agree to disagree?
13/11/2009 08:07:59 AM
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Sure, just a couple of points...
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Re: Sure, just a couple of points...
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Interesting concept...
13/11/2009 08:59:53 AM
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The answer lies in a fundamental difference between spinning and maintaining a weave...
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Yeah, I posted on this
12/11/2009 08:53:26 PM
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Hmmm....
13/11/2009 12:42:37 AM
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Mesaana thought she matched Semirhage
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Re: Hmmm....
13/11/2009 06:56:56 AM
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I think Sanderson just doesn't have the interest and knowledge of relative strength that RJ did..
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Re: Hmmm....
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The reason behind our (certainly MY) hesitance to place Nynaeve too high, is Alivia...
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There is a simple answer... skill...
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Except that...
13/11/2009 08:49:15 AM
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What about Sharina?
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No evidence either way, but you leave a massive gap between Lanfear and the average Forsaken...
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I don't think it's massive
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