In fact, I've just read the actual report, and Sanderson didn't say anything near what you quoted.
Shannow Send a noteboard - 12/11/2009 06:06:39 PM
Nowhere does Sanderson say that angreal work differently to sa'angreal.
And even regarding the reservoir statement, he says he will have to check the notes to make sure he knows what he's talking about.
As for the Choedan Kal, he doesn't even know how many times it magnifies Rand's strength. He uses the example of 100, which is ridiculous, as we have a quote in CoT, that the entire White Tower, using every angreal and sa'angreal in their possession, couldn't channel even a fraction of what Nynaeve was channeling through the Choedan Kal. And the amount of saidar used by Nynaeve was called a foothill next to Dragonmount, compared to what Rand used through the male access key.
So basically, we are talking about the order of a million times magnification, not 100 times.
Sanderson doesn't really know the answer to this. He was making it up as he went along during that Storm Leader discussion.
He didn't even know definitively how far back Rand's balefire burned Rahvin's thread out of the Pattern. Some reader had to correct him, saying that it was probably closer to an hour, rather than 15 minutes.
And Sanderson didn't even realise that Rand was using his small man angreal at the time, which probably halves the calculation again.
My point is, Sanderson is not as clear on many of these things as you might think. And it does come through in the writing, from time to time.
And even regarding the reservoir statement, he says he will have to check the notes to make sure he knows what he's talking about.
As for the Choedan Kal, he doesn't even know how many times it magnifies Rand's strength. He uses the example of 100, which is ridiculous, as we have a quote in CoT, that the entire White Tower, using every angreal and sa'angreal in their possession, couldn't channel even a fraction of what Nynaeve was channeling through the Choedan Kal. And the amount of saidar used by Nynaeve was called a foothill next to Dragonmount, compared to what Rand used through the male access key.
So basically, we are talking about the order of a million times magnification, not 100 times.
Sanderson doesn't really know the answer to this. He was making it up as he went along during that Storm Leader discussion.
He didn't even know definitively how far back Rand's balefire burned Rahvin's thread out of the Pattern. Some reader had to correct him, saying that it was probably closer to an hour, rather than 15 minutes.
And Sanderson didn't even realise that Rand was using his small man angreal at the time, which probably halves the calculation again.
My point is, Sanderson is not as clear on many of these things as you might think. And it does come through in the writing, from time to time.
This message last edited by Shannow on 12/11/2009 at 06:07:54 PM
Sanderson's understanding of angreal is totally wrong...
12/11/2009 11:10:57 AM
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You should include quotes
12/11/2009 11:42:20 AM
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The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle.
12/11/2009 11:57:20 AM
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Re: The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle.
12/11/2009 12:37:46 PM
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Re: The angreal magnifies the power of the individual holding it, not that of the entire circle.
12/11/2009 02:27:41 PM
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Please elaborate...
12/11/2009 02:42:17 PM
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On the basis that we dont agree on the use of sa'angreals on a group.
12/11/2009 03:02:29 PM
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OK, I'll humour you. This once.
12/11/2009 05:18:57 PM
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Rand Balefires a whole castle
12/11/2009 01:10:05 PM
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Ever notice the "sa" in sa'angreal?
12/11/2009 03:09:30 PM
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It stands for Super Amazing. *NM*
12/11/2009 04:10:02 PM
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I was under the assumption it was super awesome but oh well. *NM*
13/11/2009 06:08:36 AM
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There's never been any indication that sa'angreal work through a different mechanism to angreal...
12/11/2009 04:51:13 PM
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It has always been a viable theory, and Sanderson seems convincing...EDIT: RJ's take
12/11/2009 08:21:17 PM
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Wrong place *ignore*
12/11/2009 08:45:32 PM
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Do you still stick by the exponential theory?
12/11/2009 08:52:31 PM
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sa'angreal and angreal are only different in terms of the magnitude of their effects *NM*
12/11/2009 06:56:43 PM
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You are missing two important points
12/11/2009 05:09:35 PM
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Response to both points...
12/11/2009 05:57:11 PM
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In fact, I've just read the actual report, and Sanderson didn't say anything near what you quoted.
12/11/2009 06:06:39 PM
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Re: Look at how similar descriptions of angreal and Sa'angreal affects are in the books.
12/11/2009 07:34:16 PM
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Probably
12/11/2009 09:05:31 PM
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Some ways the fixed amount theory could work...
13/11/2009 12:33:04 AM
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There is an argument for a minimum strength argument in the Great Hunt
13/11/2009 03:26:11 AM
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