It wasn't Compulsion...Sanderson just sort of messed up IMO
Marshall Send a noteboard - 04/11/2009 11:38:38 PM
I believe this was supposed to be Rand trying to bend the Pattern to his will. He threatened to do this twice in the book--once to Cadsuane, and once to Graendal's spy, Kerb. If possible, I guess it might be a form of Compulsion--but the effects of ta'veren have always been different. Chance twists around Rand, and people have much looser tongues--but never because of a feeling of worship or necessity for the person to whom they are speaking. It always just happens. With Tuon, BS clearly put Tuon in a mindset where Rand's will was supreme, which mirrors Compulsion closely. But I can't honestly believe that Rand used Compulsion. For one, Nynaeve and Elayne--both of whom are very strong-willed, were absolutely no match for Lanfear's compulsion in the White Tower. A strong will such as Tuon's cannot resist Compulsion. Secondly, Rand is familiar with Compulsion, but he views it as a thing of evil as well, and I can't seeing him use it to further his gains. He's been in many situations in the past where Compulsion could have served him greatly, but he hasn't.
Is anyone angered by the Seanchan and a'dam?
30/10/2009 11:14:00 PM
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Yes, but not me
30/10/2009 11:32:45 PM
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Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam
30/10/2009 11:39:45 PM
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Re: Is anyone angry by the Seanchan and A'dam
30/10/2009 11:45:29 PM
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Except the Seanchan are not spoiled chidlren who mistake "wishful thinking" for a plan
31/10/2009 04:48:45 AM
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Or he could have used the Choedan Kal
31/10/2009 12:21:42 PM
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What Choedan Kal? *NM*
31/10/2009 10:15:24 PM
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For what?
31/10/2009 12:03:57 AM
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if he was it wasn't on purpose. I think he was just actively trying to use his ta'verenness *NM*
31/10/2009 12:15:32 AM
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I dont think it's compulsion.
31/10/2009 12:16:00 AM
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Actually, I think it's the other way around.
31/10/2009 12:21:49 AM
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It wasn't Compulsion...Sanderson just sort of messed up IMO
04/11/2009 11:38:38 PM
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I don't care for Tuon at all. I'd be okay if her and the Seanchan were obliterated. *NM*
31/10/2009 12:44:22 AM
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And how is that any different from me with Egwene (except she & I are the same race)? *NM*
31/10/2009 04:51:17 AM
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Why not Highlords in Tear?
31/10/2009 02:10:07 AM
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You dont really get it.
31/10/2009 12:23:35 PM
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Not at all. Their position is perfectly justified by their experiences.
31/10/2009 04:29:25 AM
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The a'dam and leashing of channelers does not change the fact that the OP can be misued...
31/10/2009 09:17:20 AM
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Which is why people should NOT be MORE angered toward Seanchan than toward WT.
31/10/2009 06:22:13 PM
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That's complete hogwash.
31/10/2009 10:23:50 PM
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Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it
01/11/2009 05:44:16 AM
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Re: Using the word "Hogwash" is inviting flames, but I will be nice about it
05/11/2009 02:54:52 AM
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Well that was rather silly.
31/10/2009 12:27:03 PM
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And a generation later, the same old problem arises. New channelers, with no one to stop them.
31/10/2009 10:28:35 PM
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Several valid points...
31/10/2009 05:17:09 PM
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I wonder what if Egwene happen to be a child kidnapped at Flame and sent to WT
31/10/2009 06:30:34 PM
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The sul'dam should be destroyed
31/10/2009 05:14:06 AM
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The people themselves shouldn't be.
31/10/2009 05:26:08 AM
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Only the Empress can remove the custom
31/10/2009 05:48:09 AM
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Due to their conditioning.
31/10/2009 06:03:32 AM
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She will (and ya, sul'dam become sul'dam from age 13-18 usually) *NM*
31/10/2009 06:12:48 AM
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I think the a'dam is the perfect solution for Blacks and the Shaido 'Wise Ones'.
01/11/2009 02:51:27 AM
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