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Almost certainly dead Isaac Send a noteboard - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM
I've reread the scene a few times now and it seems each time more and more written as meant to be unambigious total kill, still, in fiction nothing is certain.
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Graendal's fate? Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:18:11 AM 1731 Views
Dead. Great Lord of Chaos - 02/11/2009 04:22:48 AM 777 Views
Maybe... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:28:16 AM 746 Views
I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. LlordNakcor - 02/11/2009 04:36:37 AM 776 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 04:40:30 AM 693 Views
Re: I think it's fair to say at this point that Graendal did not kill Asmodean. Grimbear - 02/11/2009 05:08:09 AM 673 Views
Why has she been removed from the list of suspects? beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 02:29:41 PM 668 Views
She is dead dacole - 09/11/2009 01:37:03 AM 614 Views
That's pretty terrible logic beetnemesis - 19/11/2009 05:58:57 AM 751 Views
I disagree. Rand al'Thor - 02/11/2009 10:29:21 PM 607 Views
Agreed. *NM* Lord Haart - 19/11/2009 11:43:45 AM 308 Views
Could it have been Verin who killed Asmodean? Bookwyrm - 02/11/2009 05:20:37 AM 1179 Views
She is dead *spoilers* brett014 - 02/11/2009 05:44:21 AM 749 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* Gaidal Craig - 03/11/2009 09:01:07 AM 637 Views
Re: She is dead *spoilers* dacole - 09/11/2009 01:38:56 AM 736 Views
I thought so too, but KCF set me straight.. his response in a thread further down the board kavorka - 02/11/2009 05:56:40 PM 709 Views
I say dead. *NM* Gher - 02/11/2009 06:07:15 AM 341 Views
Dead. Seriana Sedai - 02/11/2009 06:46:10 AM 604 Views
Dead as Dumbledore. But why does it preclude her from being Asmo's killer? Master Radishes - 02/11/2009 07:04:08 AM 702 Views
Right. That info could easily be revealed through the POV of another. *NM* RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 02:15:31 PM 315 Views
It could but... Ashaman Narishma - 02/11/2009 03:14:23 PM 697 Views
Moridin would most likely know. RandAllThor - 02/11/2009 04:06:04 PM 603 Views
Well.... Etzel - 02/11/2009 08:52:52 AM 658 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:45:52 PM 297 Views
Alive until proven otherwise IMO *spoilers* Dragonsworn - 02/11/2009 03:47:51 PM 686 Views
That weave was very complex. Kronin al'Sulc - 02/11/2009 10:34:36 PM 606 Views
Actually, the one that Rand had Nynaeve study earlier was more complex. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:11:07 PM 691 Views
But you can't reverse Compulsion by unraveling it, right? BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:48:08 PM 624 Views
Almost certainly dead Isaac - 02/11/2009 04:48:18 PM 770 Views
Yeah. Compared to, say, Sammael's "death" beetnemesis - 02/11/2009 10:40:01 PM 674 Views
Not even almost. Graendal and Sammael now both go well with eggs. *NM* Marshall - 03/11/2009 01:51:15 AM 338 Views
Oh, I agree, but fiction, deus ex machina, etc Isaac - 04/11/2009 09:58:42 PM 611 Views
Graendal is dead. the evidence is pretty hard NaClH2O - 03/11/2009 08:00:27 PM 2942 Views
Well, unlike everyone else, Fred Gaidin - 04/11/2009 01:34:57 AM 624 Views
Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was more cunning RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 05:03:38 PM 774 Views
Re: Balefire. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 05:30:12 PM 616 Views
Not necessarily. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 06:08:34 PM 585 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 04/11/2009 06:25:43 PM 659 Views
Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:30:05 PM 849 Views
Re: Here's the rub - she had no desire to come into contact with Rand. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:48:30 AM 769 Views
Hm. Possible. Kaldric - 04/11/2009 06:42:12 PM 903 Views
I think it's the most simple possibility. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 10:39:02 PM 624 Views
Re: I think it's the most simple possibility. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:51:52 AM 548 Views
That's just absurd Marshall - 04/11/2009 10:48:30 PM 690 Views
No, I'm making it more simple. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/11/2009 11:11:36 PM 635 Views
That thoery doesn't account for the undoing of the Compulsion Marshall - 04/11/2009 11:50:06 PM 646 Views
Yes, it does. Distance causes maintained weaves and Links to attenuate. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/11/2009 04:22:37 PM 678 Views
Yes, but Compulsion is almost never a maintained weave *NM* Marshall - 06/11/2009 07:19:24 PM 358 Views
But the real question in my mind... darius_sedai - 02/12/2009 08:28:31 PM 613 Views
Well Marshall - 06/12/2009 08:45:12 PM 1060 Views
Odds are she's dead darius_sedai - 06/12/2009 08:48:19 PM 499 Views
Re: No, I'm making it more simple. dacole - 09/11/2009 01:53:49 AM 625 Views
Amen! Praise the Great Lord of the Dark! **I agree with all points** Bookwyrm - 05/11/2009 07:21:52 AM 659 Views
Re: Alive. It's the simplest answer for me, especially considering that Rand knew she was BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:52:36 PM 624 Views
This sounds familiar. Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2009 06:54:17 AM 576 Views
Yes... Etzel - 17/11/2009 12:12:04 PM 567 Views
Yeah, I was shocked initially. BlackAdder - 18/11/2009 10:58:15 PM 625 Views
Proof for reincarnation exists Lord Haart - 26/11/2009 06:38:17 PM 595 Views
RJ said... Etzel - 26/11/2009 06:51:26 PM 723 Views
But Rand's was spread over a LARGE area *NM* Lord Haart - 27/11/2009 12:17:47 AM 271 Views
He was drawing through the Choedan Kal... *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/11/2009 01:09:23 AM 260 Views
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